So you believe that doctor but not the other 99.99% of the medical profession.
The fact remains vaccines do help and are a good thing, they also injure kids much more than you or I are told about, you cannot deny that fact
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Considering most are paid by the drug companies for pushing their wares itâs hard to find one that will shoot straight. Itâs usually the old as dirt docs ready to retire that will shoot you straight as they arenât worried about all the big bonuses that come from the drug companies.
You see it all the time, new drug comes out and doctors push the hell out of it over other drugs that have been around a while. Just to find out in 5 years the drug is killing people. The docs push them for the bonuses
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Youâre conflating so much in your responses that they have almost become meaningless. You can get âinjuredâ from a vaccine (as with your child, like you claim) but an âinjuryâ can encompass a LOT, an allergic reaction, for example, could be an âinjuryâ.
Vaccines do not cause autism. They just do. not. There is NO evidence for it, there are no credible studies claiming it, there is no data showing it, and like @Foreigner said, correlation != causation. What youâre doing when you argue this, is the same argument prohibitionists use to claim Cannabis causes psychosis. If there were evidence, credible evidence, that person would win the nobel prize because it would be so game changing in the field of medicine, unless, ofcourse, you believe everything is a conspiracy by some deep state to keep the people undercontrol with microchips in vaccines in which case, there will never be enough evidence to convince you otherwise.
Whatâs a little ironic is you claim your child cant have vaccines because of said reactions, that is the entire point of vaccinations. To create a herd immunity so that people who cant have vaccines because of allergies or suppressed immune systems are protected because everyone else is shielding them. If too many people stop vaccinating because of fear mongering by demagogues trying to sell you something, then it stops working for everyone, hence the recent measles outbreak
You see it all the time, new drug comes out and doctors push the hell out of it over other drugs that have been around a while. Just to find out in 5 years the drug is killing people. The docs push them for the bonuses
This isnt an argument against vaccines, plus this scandal IIRC was about opiods. Iâm not American so I do not share the same sentiments WRT my health service.
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You cannot say for fact that they do not cause autism. The only studies that say they donât are paid for by the drug companies. The medical review journals are also controlled by the drug companies. There have been numbers studies that does show a link to thimerisol and autism they get buried by the CDC at the request of the drug companies that pay them. If you think vaccines do no harm youâre an idiot to put out kindly.
Also opioids arenât the only drugs found to be killing people a few years after they paid doctors to push them
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I absolutely can. The onus is on you to prove the assertion.
here have been numbers studies that does show a link to thimerisol and autism they get buried by the CDC at the request of the drug companies that pay them. If you think vaccines do no harm youâre an idiot to put out kindly.
Youâre a full blown tin foil hat conspiracy theorist then. Other countries outside of the U.S exists, you know. America doesnt run the world.
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I donât think anyone is arguing this. Yes, vaccines have measurable risks. But these risks are less risky than the diseases they prevent.
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Exactly! Occasionally people do have bad reactions, penicillin kills people occasionally too. But MILLIONS and MILLIONS more have been saved. Should we stop using antibiotics too?
These are miracles of medicine. But you all âknow the real truth THEY donât want you toâ.
Itâs a predictable pattern in conspiracy theories.
The same drug companies that pay off politicians operate in other countries as well. There are many drugs sold here that are banned in most every other country
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Yes, I can.
If they do help and are a good thing WHAT IS YOUR POINT?
If vaccines caused autism in your cousinâs babyâs mommaâs boyfriendâs kid, and a doctor FORMALLY DIAGNOSED MMR VACCINE as the cause, your friends should be receiving a multimillion dollar settlement. But, that probably didnât happen in the first place.
They are in the process of dealing with the vaccine court now. You cannot sue in court for vaccine injury.
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SMP when I offered you evidence from the very mouths of those you profess to hold as the guardians of truth, you turned it down, saying you did not want to waste your valuable time, yet here you are wasting your time.
You seem to want to argue these points, but when evidence is produced from CDC archive footage of the WHO vaccine summit, showing concerns over very low safety data and vaccine damage, and death, its suddenly not acceptable and tin foil hat propaganda.
You seem to like cherry picking your defence of these things using 1 component to discredit everything. You make a lot of assumptions yourself.
How do you know 99.99% of doctors believe what you do, have you asked them, wheres your proof.
Not even 99.99% of the doctors and specialists at the WHO vaccine summit agree with you.
It seems you are so emotionally invested in this, that you cant even bare to hear it from the experts you worship.
I was vaxed age 8, for 8 years average body fat, suddenly start gaining weight drastically none of my brothers and sisters gained weight we all ate the same food. Even on a low calorie diet I gained weight.
You conveniently forget about my sudden loss of reading and writing skills that worried my english teacher and was bad enough to put me into a remedial group. My daughter had her vax at 4, and had the same weight problem start, and the same reaction to her reading writing skills as well as math, spacial awareness, balance, hand eye co ordination.
When you isolate symptoms its easy to disregard them, when you look at the person as a whole with all the symptoms and time lines, its not so easy. It may be a possible coincidence, but not a probable one to me.
If they did the tests as with all other drugs, we might have a clearer picture, but as the WHO head vaccine advisor said, the safety data is small and obscured.
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Probably because vaccines donât cause autism.
Yeah bud I got fat when I was around that age too. I doubt you gained weight on a low calorie diet, probably because it isnât really possible without a serious thyroid disorder, and those are easy to test for. Odd how the problem seems to lie in something other than your eating and exercise habits. I used to make excuses too. Sounds like you got crap genetics, friend. No oneâs perfect. I have shitty vision too and Iâm so tall I have to pretty much order all my clothes online but I donât blame the vaccination.
Your beloved WHO also states that 29% of all childhood deaths under 5 worldwide are vaccine preventable. MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DEAD KIDS. This isnât a joke, friend. This isnât some internet argument to win the stakes are very real and your story of how you and your daughter got fat and sucked at school donât change that. Measles is back because of you people. It was literally banished from America.
Do people SOMETIMES have adverse reactions? Yes. Is it overwhelmingly infinitesimal compared to the alternative of millions and millions of dead children? Yes.
What you are saying is there is no causation of autism from vaccines, but autism can be a result of using a vaccine, its legal speak.
If we know all these children have a result of autism, from using vaccinations, why are the drug companies not improving them, so their use does not result in damage?
Oh yeah its because its too expensive and people are not worth it, when the drug companies are immune from prosecution.
No, thatâs not what Iâm saying. I am absolutely not saying âautism can be the result of using a vaccineâ and neither is he. We do not know children have autism as a result of using vaccinations, untrue and blatantly putting words in mouth.
They took the thimerosal out in 2001 to appease you nuts, even though there wasnât evidence of danger in the miniscule amounts used as a preservative.
They are obviously trying to improve, or at least make the conspiracy-prone happy. Vaccines are cheap as shit medically speaking, Iâd pay more to have my children and the children of others not die.
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No dumb ass they created a special vaccine court to keep complaints out of the public eye and have paid it over 4 billion but you would know that if you read the link I provided.
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4 billion over 32 years divided by every goddamn person in AmericaâŚthatâs the cheapest medical malpractice payout for ANY PROCEDURE. Silicon tit implants have paid out 3.4 billion so farâŚwanna guess what percentage of Americans have gotten their boobs done vs vaccinated?
Theyâre are thousands upon thousands of cases pending you moron, my friend has been dealing with the âvaccine courtâ for 5 years and no end in sight. Most drop it because of the insane amount of time it takes for anything to happen. Comparing boob jobs to vaccine injury is retarded at best. You can sue in open court for that and not have to go thru a special vaccine court
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Stop with the name calling and personal attacks or take it to the tank. Everyone, please.