That is sexy.
I guess it’s a weird question…I run coco as 40-45ish% of my media but I add compost and ferments and other shit. I consider myself in soil but maybe I’m wrong 
I can flip in 23-25 days from seed and still get decent sized plants.
i was doing a minimum of 2 months in veg. but now that i’m doing the perpetual with abuela’s GDP, i have even more limitations with space. so zone1 indoors is the only area now doing the strain hunt over the winter. my outdoor grow after the winter will address a bunch more strain list items.
in zone1 i can grow out 2 plants in 2.5 gallon pots. i currently have lavender in there in seedling form. it’s counterpart trainwreck is still germinating.
as usual with zone1 they will veg for 2 months and flower in 2-3 months (depending on strain). i can get 3-4 harvests out of zone1 per year.
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So you only have space for 5 gallons of soil? How big is that zone1 space?
awesome. thank you for coming along and saying YES… this is possible and i have evidence!
ok. one of the posts above i put out my intended soilless recipe. let me repost it. for you. let me know if i’m missing anything crucial and if you think my recipe is sound. (please and thanks!)
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Organic is the way to go, IMHO. Any method, soil/compost mix, soil-less, hydro… doesn’t matter to me. I’ve tried em all over the years and not fond of some things (like power outage) I always come back to my own soil/compost mix and organic growing method. I’d rather take my time and have a high quality product.
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Thanks, its a great method I didn’t make up by any means. I just learned from real good growers lol. The whole “what is soil” thing can get pretty philosophical. But in my simple minded angle of thinking, what people are saying as “soil” in this context is adding compost. So I would say you are making a soil mix. Really the 1 thing that makes a difference for “organic soilless” as far as my method is literally just adding the compost/castings in thru teas vs in the soil as compost. With the idea of trying to speed up growth in pots. Cuz if I had bigass holes to amend, you bet Im using tons of compost. Vs something like smaller containers indoors where Ill want the teas to do the heavy lifting.
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it is a shelf in a small bedroom closet. best guess for sqft is 3’x1’
photo below.
i just harvested these 2 out of zone1 last week.
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I believe highly oxygenated aquaponic derived water is the most idealized version of having an organic hydroponic setup. Many blessings and much love
i completely agree with that, but in my case i have abuela’s condition continuing to deteriorate. i want to try and get through all these list strains so i know which ones work for her and which do not… then only grow those that do to keep her comfortable for the rest of her time.
more time or more space would be ideal for me… 
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What’s your wattage for that space?
This thread is HOT.
Run a little side by side and see who performs better? You as a novice with a hydro setup or you experienced with soil. Should use roughly same nutes if all organics
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Also had a buddy that brewed compost tea with organic inputs to feed a coco coir perlite soilless media and it was very good. I’d consider that organic soilless too. Many blessings and much love
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From this particular madman, DO IT.
I went full DWC (@Qtip style) on my first grows and oh boy did that force a lot of swift learning!!!
I then did RDWC with 4 sites and 120L of solution which was equally learning curved but less intense as with more solution = more forgiveness.
It was after this I tried organic indoors and then the same style outdoors with only trying in ground this past summer! (rofl).
Now after all this XP grinding I’m a total “Salt-Ganics” (mix of Nutrient Salts and Organics) grower and you can’t stop me or argue with bro science. 
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interesting concept. makes sense with the lack of composting material involved.
thanks for that tidbit.
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I’d look into the earthbox and sub irrigated planter style of growing if you want to try and get the best of both worlds, hydro speed with organic quality. Also, after experimenting my last two runs with Steve Cantwell’s method of transplanting into living soil, I would highly recommend adding that into your arsenal as well.
The idea is simple: cut the bottom off a small fabric pot, put it on a flat surface that will keep the soil in and fill it with your starter mix. Plant a seed or clone and let it establish. Then to transplant you carefully move the entire pot onto a clear piece of soil in your main pot, making sure the bare soil makes contact. I use this with automated watering directly in the starter pot (as well as the rest of the main pot) and my theory is that the soil in the starter pot dries very aggressively, being a fabric pot, which allows for a ton of oxygen to the plant, while the rest of the roots are able to explore deeper into the pot for resources. You could intentionally make the starter soil very airy to exaggerate this effect as well by using mainly coco and a lot of aeration. This last run I saw some of the fastest growth in veg despite temps in the mid-to-high 60s for most of the run.
I wish I could combine this method with a SIP style planter to try and get all the benefits going at the same time. Permanent access to low TDS water, living soil synergies with microbes, and high oxygen from the fabric starter pot… maybe one day 
That’s the main stem from an autoflower in 20 gallons of living soil…
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My pleasure! Its my weird little niche I love so much lol. Your medium mix sounds perfect. My favorite is equal parts coco/peat/aeration. But as long as you got that light/fluffy mix you’re golden!
Your amendment setup will for sure work, but it can be a ton more simple! I just use Pride Lands veg/bloom, top dress every 2 weeks in veg, weekly in flower. Only thing it may need is a lil oyster shell for calmag. As for the liquids I do em every 3rd day vs weekly. Fish is perfect for veg, and I really like stuff like liquid guano in bloom. Budswels an old favorite of mine. Nowadays I tend to use Roots Buudha Grow/bloom. Not so much for NPK, but instead to help biology as much as possible. But there’s lots of good options. Roots catalyst is a great option for 1 easy bottle of it.
As for teas, I rock em every 3-4 days! Cant overtea, and in smaller pots and stuff, Ive really they really benefit from the agro levels of tea! Here’s my cheat sheet that breaks it all down.
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oh jeeze… i dunno man. i’m so new to the indoor stuff. wife finally agreed to let me use indoors after she understood the length of the list and how long things take to grow/harvest/trim/dry/cure/make oil/repeat.
the light in zone1 is my only hi-ya light and i know next to nothing about it.
it is a viparspectra P1500 some sh^t… it was the right price and fit the space. 
found it on amazon:
that’s a cool idea. i like it.
another vote for the mega-teas… noted!
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lol… doeeeit!
i think i need to buy some more gear. i see all y’all hydro dude taking about PH and cal/mag problems i NEVER see in soil. never even worry or think about.
one of these days i will mess with it. i get jelly seeing the massive/speedy growth and then resist the urge to over fertilize my plants and shout at them drill sergeant style to get them motivated.
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Its so doable but man you get one right bean out of those feminized beans and its game on i wish i had your indoor barn you got room for days my 5x5 was crammed packed it looked like Jumangi when the kids let the plants grow through the walls.Someone tries it in one of those smaller autoflower tents and they are going to be one busy dude lol
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