Yeah James Bean is my shit…just ordered some of Bodhi’s gear.
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My dear friend, breeders is a so much big word for a lot the Seeds Banks ya talk…
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As mentioned already, James Bean Co, in the US. The only one I need to use these days and they’re a great company. 
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I never mentioned any seedbanks. These are all breeders like you or i could be.
No Seeds Banks here??: (n lot of without any real breeder).
Al menos 8 de los bancos que citas producen sus semillas mas o menos cerca de Monte Adentro… Y la mayoría subcontratando la producción… Y de los restantes no estoy seguro…
En cuanto a confiar en ellos…: Tu te crees que DNA CANNALOPE is HaceXMichoacan; o que D.P. DESFRAN es una Sativa Sudamericana (como decían hasta que tuvieron que reconocer la verdad);…Y de donde son Humboldt Seeds?..
At least 8 of the banks that cites produce their seeds more or less near Monte Adentro … And most subcontracting the production … And of the rest I’m not sure …
As for trusting them …: You think DNA CANNALOPE is HazeXMichoacan; which D.P. DESFRAN is a South American Sativa (as they said until they had to recognize the truth); … And where are Humboldt Seeds?
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A Seed bank is a person or several people selling seeds by many breeders. They dont breed. They just sell the breeders work and usualy make more money then the breeder. I have no reason to not trust them other then one person (you) telling me they arnt trust worthyXD why wouldnt i believe dna genetics when they had acess to the real haze and they had access to a mexican sativa. Is it really that hard to find a mexican sativa? Why wouldnt you believe they have connections with the haze bros? I see no reason in believing they are liars. Untill someone magicly prooves to me they are full of shit ill continue to run with the breeders i love the most.
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Pues es bien obvio: mira la descripción de Cannalope y dime si tiene el tiempo de floración de una Haze X Michoacán… Cannalope solo es una Cinderella, quizá con algo de Mexican Sativa Sensi Seeds…
Lo mismo ocurre con la descripción de Norstar, y su cruce de puras sativas hispanoamericanas que es 25% indica y se recoge en fin de Septiembre… Como una afgana…
Que si es difícil encontrar una Landrace Mexicana pura?: Estando todo el dia en un club de Amsterdamn si… Has visto la Haze o la Michoacána (y cual de las Michoacanas usa DNA) de DNA?..
Well it’s obvious: look at the description of Cannalope and tell me if it has the flowering time of a Haze X Michoacán … Cannalope is only a Cinderella, maybe with something of Mexican Sativa Sensi Seeds …
The same thing happens with the description of Norstar, or its crossing of pure HispanoAmerican sativas that is 25% indica and is collected at the end of September … Like an Afghani…
What if it is difficult to find a pure Mexican landrace ?: Bein all day in a club in Amsterdam it is imposible… Have you seen Haze or Michoacan (and which of Michoacans uses DNA) of DNA ?.
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MiG is right. El dice la verdad. Cannalope is just a Cinderella f2 rip-off. No Haze in it at all, other than what Sensi bred into the Jack Herer that was the mother of Princess (mother of Cinderella). And the Haze Brothers? No one’s seen them since about 1985. I doubt the DNA guys were in diapers yet. The original Haze lines were pure sativas, and pure sativas take 12-22 weeks to mature. Anyone selling a Haze (or any 100% sativa) that matures faster is selling an indica hybrid. It’s really that simple.
Today, the hunt for a “pure Haze” really begins and ends with Mr. Nice. Shanti has kept two of the original Haze lines alive through the years, and sells the Neville’s Haze line that is 75% pure Haze. Oldtimer has a pre-Holland Haze line from the Santa Cruz (Calif.) area that went directly from CA to UK and was not crossed with indica, so it has a special place in my strain library, but is mostly unmanageable indoors, and can only be considered breeding stock. Everything else out there is some indica-laden derivative strain, at best. In the 'Dam, many shops will label anything with +50% sativa heritage as a Haze just to boost sales. Many of today’s seedbanks and breeders do the same.
I’m not opposed to Haze hybrids. But I don’t like deception, or changing the name of a strain and calling it your own. So, yeah, I question the quality and veracity of claims made by those “breeders” who do.
-b420
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I understand what you mean bro. All the shit they have is tainted with that afgani. But i feel getting into that is too technical for people just looking for good geneticsXD cant complain about some cannalope haze thoughXD hahaha
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Mr nice is by far my favorite. Just cant bring my self to rip open that pack of nevils hazeXD i also have that oldtimers haze from ace. Cant wait for those to come out.
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Nothing wrong with Cannalope Haze, except it should be called Cinderella. Or at least “DNA’s Cinderella”. Think of all the winemakers who make Merlot. Do they change the name of the grape used in their wine just to sound original? No. They make “their Merlot” and put their brand on the label, so consumers can differentiate their version of Merlot from others’. I don’t see why cannabis breeders can’t do the same. It would be so much better for the customer, and ultimately, for the breeders that bred the “best” versions of these strains. Re-naming strains is deception that hides the poor skills and practices of third-rate seed producers.
-b420
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Royal Queen seeds check out there website
A joint of Auto-Haze “a tu salud”… je, je…
Oldtimers Haze probablemente sea la Haze mas pura y autentica del mercado, mostrando colores como el purpura, azulado, plateado, que se comentaba que daba la Haze original, aparte del verde/dorado.
Oldtimer eligió a Chalie Garcia aka KAIKI ( fundador de ACE y CannsBioGen) para que preservara y mejorara su Haze, que era muy variable en potencia, sabor, etc…
Kaiki de CannaBioGen elimino los ejemplares hermafroditas y los menos potentes, incluso separando genotipos (Purple, Green, etc).
OldTimers Haze Cannabiogen by ESTAI
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Pues si mentir diciendo que un híbrido de otro criador es una nueva variedad 100% Sativa (HazeXMichoacan!!!) es “algo demasiado técnico” para ti no entiendo como puedes lanzarte a recomendar ciertos Bancos…
Tampoco te comento sobre otros de tus recomendados (Dutch Passion, Dinafem, Humboldt, Norstar, Bodhi) si no te interesa…
Hey, @lotus710, te he dicho todo esto porque me caias bien: a la gente que no conozco he decidido dejarles que hablen de sus Landraces de Alaska y Grecía y La Antartida, que digan que Green Crack de Humboldt es una Sativa de California, o que recomienden Green House o World of Seeds…
Well if to lie saying that a hybrid of another breeder is a new variety 100% Sativa (HazeXMichoacan !!!) is “something too technical” for you I do not understand how you can launch yourself to recommend certain Banks …
Nor do you comment on other of your recommended (Dutch Passion, Dinafem, Humboldt, Bodhi,…) if you are not interested …
Hey, @lotus710, I’ve told you all this because I liked you: with the people I do not know I have decided to let them talk about their Alaskan Landraces and Grecia and Antarctica, let them say that Humboldt’s Green Crack is a California Sativa, or recommend Green House or World of Seeds …
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I’m 110% with you on all that renaming shit…
Ds
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@hempmex, @Viva_Mexico, preparaos que vamos para allá el “OG Landraces Hunters Team”: iremos a buscar landraces por la Sierra de Sinaloa con nuestras gorras de béisbol y chalecos antibalas con el emblema " Landraces Hunter" verdes a juego… Nos han dicho que cuando lleguemos allá “nos van a meter para el cuerpo” una Landrace muy buena que y que se llama “Cuerno de Chivo’s Plomo”… La conocéis?
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HERE HERE 
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Es que los Haze Bross eran amigos de los padres de los DNA y escondían en sus pañales sus semillas haze más preciadas… Je…
It is that the Haze Bross were friends of the parents of the DNA and they hid in their diapers their most precious haze seeds … Je …
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