…De echo, puede que SkunkMan le metiera Kerala o Munnar o lo que quisiera a la Haze Original, pero lei esta no tenía esos cruces cuando salio de los Bross…
Quizá por eso, la Purple, Blue y Silver Haze ( que con la Green/Gold eran los colores/genotipo de la Haze de los Bross), no se ven en ninguna otra “Haze”" excepto en la Oltimer’s Haze …
…o eso he oído por ahí…
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I would love to hear your alternate history of the Haze. Mine is compiled from many sources I’ve cobbled together. My only direct sources are Oldtimer and Rob Clarke, Clarke having lived in the area during the time (but says he was focused on Skunk) and Oldtimer in contact with California Haze growers travelling through the UK at the time (Ot1 never met the Haze Bros.)
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Sabia que lo habías leído de R. Clark, je, @Baudelaire (también fue la primera composición que yo leí y creí hasta que Glenn Orch me hizo recordar la “otra version” de la composicion Haze y un viejo hilo en CW entre Oldtimer y Kaiki aka C.Garcia) : R. Clarke probablemente si asistió a esos cruces posteriores de la Haze hechos por SkunkMan…
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Yo había oído que obtuvo las semillas de hippies de California que hacían escala en su casa británica, antes de seguir sus viajes a Islas Canarias e Ibiza, Nepal, India y/o Thailandia… Y llevaban las primeras semillas vendidas de la Haze Bross en California…
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Hope you don’t mind my translating your quotes - for the enlightenment of our English speaking members… Yes, I have heard the same from Ot1. I guess my point is that Haze, like Skunk to a large degree, was a genetic cocktail employed by several growers in the central California coastal mountains at the time. Skunk #1 and Haze, as they became known, were the seed selections from that milieu that “got out” and were commercialized and widely distributed, by Skunkman/Clarke at Sacred Seeds and Nevil at The Seed Bank.
My point is I’ve come to understand that, like many inventions (light bulbs, airplanes), the ideas were being explored, even discovered, by several people at the time. “Skunking” being the crossing of a central/south American sativa hybrid with an afghani to bulk it up, add trichome density, and bring down maturation time; while “Hazing” could be understood as line breeding of several tropical sativas together for potency and local adaptation (optimizing maturation period), without the addition of short-season indicas.
-b420
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Que pasa, @hempmex, huevon! Estaba preocupado por ti por el terremoto…
Oye, no parecen narcohibridos o “chaparras” como las de las fotos de Sergio en “The Dogs House”? Que altura tienen? Conoces la variedad?
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La variedad es desconocida, las personas no conocen el nombre pero tienen semillas, eso si, según la cantidad de agua que puedan ofrecerles a la planta es el tamaño que tendrán, son de amigos de Baridaguato Sinaloa.
Las cosas por aca todo mal, hay un desastre por todas las calles, muchas personas perdieron sus casas, es una situación difícil y muy delicada.
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Todas las buenas vibras del mundo para vos y los tuyos @hempmex!
All the good vibes in the world for you and yours Hempmex!
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thankiu all guys for the support, every one wherever you are i hope you stay cool and getting some chill, here the things are diferent for now, but surely very soon will be like always. have great time
Las cosas en Mexico estan cabronas, la CIudad de Mexico, Morelos y Puebla han sido las principales dañadas, espero que todos donde esten tengan un excelente fin de semana
Desconoco al buen amigo Sergio, pero mira que cosas pronto me enviaran semillas de la sierra de Baridaguato.
Puse 2 Machos de Kritical Mass Resultaron unos mounstros los mezcle con una semilla de cannabis prensado de michoacan y otro de guadalajara, ya estan saliendo semillas.
Kritical Michoacan
Kritical Guadalajara
jajajajajaj ojala tenga un poco de suerte
I put 2 Males of Kritical Mass They were mixed with a seed of cannabis pressed of michoacan and another one of guadalajara, they are already coming out seeds.
Kritical Michoacan
Kritical Guadalajara
I hope you have a bit of luck
i have my room like this
One hand Male with 2 Females Mexican
in the other and Females from 1 kRITICAL MASS, AND 3 AMNEZIA MASS from small bank called Mr Hidee Seeds Bank
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That sounds killer bro! Have a nice weekend!
I´ll be here… LOL
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I have had stellar results with a few American seed banks recently. Seedsherenow, jamesbeancompany, and thedankteam. They have all been fast, I receive what I order plus freebies. So happy I don’t have to order from over seas anymore. It always took much longer and the whole going trough customs thing, just always felt sketchy to me. Most of the american breeders only carry reg seeds. I was on the fem bandwagon when I first started growing a decade ago, but now I feel like the breeders with the super dank, stick to regs. Don’t get me wrong I have found some fire in fems, but more so since I have been trying the American breeders. And sexing is cake. JMO. Singleseedcentre.com was a good seed bank though, and I never had any problems with them, if you prefer the UK.
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Hay otros Bancos Españoles con criadores de verdad y autenticas variedades únicas…
A esos les llaman "Los FemiCopys"
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You’ve followed along the same path that many other growers have followed, my friend, and it’s getting more popular. Good luck with the ladies 
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On seedherenow.com, they claim to sell Aficionado Mendocino Seeds, and they got four strains, one goes for $300, second one for $350 and the other two for a whooping $700… Ten packs…
Would you guys pay that for 10 seeds?
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That’s way to rich for my blood.
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I think maybe someone here knows them, and grown them, but it seems extremely expensive for ten seeds. I expect they would be of the highest quality and all, but $700 for ten beans? Like out of this world.
Do you know them @GrowerGoneWild? I seem to recall you showing us a collection of these beans.
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i don’t think that’s worth it at all… maaaybe i’d pay $700 for 10 elite cuts but not for beans
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The beans you are talking about are Magnum Opus, they are 600 a box.
The lineage is respectable, its been worked 11 generations. Hence the price. We are still working that particular cultivar and its been crossed other lines, we are kinda looking at the results. Looks promising so far.
Afi has some really good gear, like the Long Valley Royal Kush, I think they went through 3000 plants for a keeper.
I hear it all the time, “too expensive”. But to be honest, the results are impressive and crossing it with other elite lines have yielded some outstanding results especially the black lime lines. Awesome structure, outstanding terpene quality.
If you have never run any of the Afi seeds,I kinda wish people would just keep to themselves. The Afi hybrids we’ve come up with usually get premium prices still in a saturated market. Its easy to get 250 an OZ or 3k+ an LB easy. I like to think the gear we put out is different. The breeder/seedmaker I know made a million bucks off of afi gear just selling flowers.
I think you have to see it yourself or understand the literal mob of people that show up at the aficinado booth at the emerald cup.
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current times are reminiscent of the California Gold Rush. A lot of hucksters and suckers being taken to the cleaners IMO. The national economy is white-hot, idiot kids with lots of money to spend and people eager to take it.
I talked to a guy at the Freedom Rally who had just purchased a huge mason jar with a single stalk of cannabis in the jar. 4-5 flowers attached to a 10-inch long, 1/4-inch thick stem. The flowers had some purple coloring and were untrimmed, only the fan leaves had been removed. The kids says “this bud WON the blah-blah cannabis cup, champion, and it’s untouched by human hands”. I’m thinking, you just paid $400 an ounce for a huge tree trunk and you still have to go home and dry-trim the buds!
I think the growing culture is 80% of quality and the strain 20%. If you grow any strain with proper organic methods, and drying/curing, most people will be blown away by the buds.
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