I’ve mentioned this as well a couple times and it gets buried amongst all the other posts, that the line is not a pure sativa anymore, but has been dutched. That’s the difference between the purebred Santa Maria, and exactly why the suffix ‘Planck’ was added to the name.
There’s quite a few purebreds that have been adulterated and get passed off as the original, and those breeders should take note. I’m a big fan of whomever decided the Planck tag should be added to the name.
I was looking through the posts, specifically looking for someone to say pretty much what I did about the line no longer being pure. I didn’t see anything, so I posted. Cees likes to post giant walls of text and every post in between gets lost in the process.
Man, saying his SM line has been Dutched really set him off! But he also acknowledges that his SM line was dutched just after he received the clones that Bernt stole and gave to him. The name Planck was added by Cees after he received the stolen clones that he dubbed as F1.
Are they F1… probably not, if it was a worked strain by the people who created it for spiritual ceremonies. I stand corrected, it was at F1, not F3 that he crossed a SM clone with (Silver Pearl x Mexican Haze F4) male.
This line was only pure before Bernt got his hands on it.
I’ll also say that stealing a plant that was being used for spiritual purposes by those who created it, is pretty damn low. I don’t support that way of thinking. If they would have given those clones to you, it wouldn’t be a big deal. I don’t condone stealing other people’s work and passing it off as your own. At least give the breeder their due by acknowledging their work.
Yeah, my red flag went up on that note right away. stolen…??? He sort of got me more confused the more he went on. It looks like a nice plant and will just be what it is.
I remember @DiggySoze saying the S.M. was Dutched and in the links it says same.
Looks like we’re about to lose another one.
#18 ain’t looking good. My #1 blue Oaxaca came up never grew then died
But I did throw a cloning machine together and pulled a short lower branch to clone. Biological filter hasn’t kicked in yet, water hasn’t cleared, and no fish yet. I hoping it will still work. Same set up ( only smaller by 90 gallons) I used in the day with 100% success rate . no hormones , scraping outer bark. Just random cut and place in cup on lid. .its 3/20/20 we’ll see in 2 weeks!
#14 is kicking ass, I topped it today.
The Santa Maria Planck is pure!
Pure lucky I haven’t killed it off😳
I think I read that a f8 is a pure IBL?
It’s true, an F8 is considered to be an IBL.
The pure part regarding the strain, isn’t correct if it’s been bred to any other strain in any filial generation. This doesn’t mean the strain can’t be an IBL. Any strain can be worked to an IBL status.
Looking good bubble King! They’ve really grown quite a bit since the last time I’ve seen a picture of them. I’ve been looking into the Korean natural farming. I like the idea of using local resources. I’ll be starting a thread on this very soon so I can get some more information from those that have experience with this method.
hey upstate how are you …
I think we already have a thread about KNF:
Sweet! I should have known lol! Thanks so much. I’ll be following along after i catch up on the thread.
So whatcha think about K.N.F.? My 3rd attempt at F.P.J. A LITTLE WATERED DOWN.
Here’s a pic of the Mex. Bagseed
What makes you think you have some light pollution? Leaky tent? That could very well be. They’ve been under that 12/12 cycle for a while correct? Should be some flowers forming by now I would think if thats the case. That last picture of the Mexican bag seed plant looks nice. Looks like it’s ready to show if it’s a male or a female. Looks like a female structure wise. In regards to that knf, I have a lot to learn. I’m going to catch up on the knf thread that I saw you’ve been participating in. I need some direction as to where I should begin. Do I make LAB First?
@Sebring has some good stuff in his thread. He ferments lots of stuff for nutes. I need to get some of the basics down and start myself this year. I wanna get the LAB figured out and go from there… Good luck!
hi @Upstate
i started watching the videos on youtube from cris trump it seems very didactic the things he does:
how to lab
sorry @TheBubbleKing for polluting your thread with things off topic 
It’s all good , just stand behind the black tape , your getting to close to me.
yes no problems, here keeping distance … … … … 
Thats it . make a jar of L.A.B… But there’s more you can do if you have the means. Which has been a big problem for me up till now(kinda) . I will get set up properly here shortly now I’m working.
In the day I used fish tank water. I recently got a 55 gal tank and built a small pond in backyard to help me out with the perfect starting water IMO.
Take the fish tank water. Add willow, coconut water , lab, fpj, a little tea ,( ffj. If flowering). That’s the basic fert. Water… There’s a lot more you can add for diff health benefits.
Soon that’s my recipe. When I get the means()
Lab, ffj, and the tea I have( almost free)
Fish tank water is cheap after the setup cost,
Coco water,
Willow water might cost, depending on how far you have to drive for it.( I’ve got them all over my area and it’s prolly time to go get today .
Hey @MomOnTheRun I sent u dm.
Does it have to be weeping willow? I have pussy willows growing on my property. Weeping willow I would have to drive for but not far. I have a spring about 50 yards from my house, and a couple ponds nearby as well. I bubble rainwater in a barrel. Should i use pondwater somehow? Once in a while when my rain barrel is low on water I will use pond water instead for container plants. I never really used it that often. What is fpj/ffa
Yeah , the fish polite the water with piss and shit and love. The waste is cleaned by beneficial microorganisms. And they make the water into fertilizer With a N.P.K. RATING. you can do the whole grow with just fish water. Pond water might have to be filtered, depending… And the weeping willow tree. Has the steroid your looking for. Steroids for root system, coconut water is steroids for the branches and upper part of plant
