Have a 10, 5, and 3 pip locked subforum give the 10pip first chance, 5 second and 3 pip third. Inb4 that’s not fair. Life isn’t fair… want to move up? Be more active. Let’s be honest, it isn’t exactly hard to move up unless you come just to check on your handouts then leave. Win/ win for everyone.
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I would be happy to pay a member ship fee for a seed club for a couple of pkgs a year and I am in no hurry to receive them I’ve got plenty to keep me going ( I don’t think I live long enough to grow out what I’ve got lol )
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I would like to get in on one of the seed runs but I’m relatively new to the site and don’t totally understand how they work yet. Like everyone has been talking about overall cost of the runs and Id just like some info as to what the individual cost is roughly so I can know if doing something like this is feasible on my fixed income occasionally.
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I think I agree with having seed runs in a more private section. I would not mind doing the same for sponsor giveaways. I know sponsors argue it has value for OG to attract new people, but I don’t think the kind that is attracted by free stuff instead of information is going to be the greatest for the community.
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Read 1st post for info as to how it works. As far as cost, typically has been $5ish/ run, but as you can tell if you’ve read the last 30 posts, the cost issue is being discussed. Stick around a while I’m sure you won’t go without as there are plenty of generous people
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Ty @Badfishy1 Not so much worried about going without. Was just looking for some clarification as to cost. All the talk about cost is what made me inquire about it. Being relatively new I I haven’t figured it all out yet. Guess it’s time to add my name…
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Bro I’m new too but this place seems like a great place I signed up as well
Peace
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Lol at attracting new people… personally, a bunch of new accounts to never be heard from again or until the next give away does NOTHING for og imo
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I agree. It helps the sponsor keep their threads on top, that’s all.
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The current discussion is whether or not to send out each pack as they arrive which costs more money or to do it a couple times a year beyond the purchase of seeds and the actual growing is them being shipped I believe 3 times (maybe 2 idk) , packaging for the seeds , sticker labels for seeds, packaging for the seeds every time there shipped just off of packaging it’s probably 3 bucks or so a pack
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When i send to the EU it’s £8.50, have paid £14 in the past, and with this ‘Brexit’ shit we might have to recruit a new distributor for the EU to keep costs down.
Though whatever suits the majority just now - is fine with me. .!
Happy growing,
Gaz
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I’d like to put in my two cents as well… This is not an argument for or against anything anyone has said above, it’s simply meant as an example of my way of thinking that I hope will resonate with some others.
I recently sent Sebring a bunch of seeds I had spares of that he was willing to share with others, for which I am extremely grateful. Among the many reasons that I did that is that I trust him to set a fair price to cover his costs and time as he sees fit, while making the seeds available to anyone for whom cannabis can improve their quality of life, potentially even including people outside of this website who do not regularly participate in online forums. The idea of extending the reach of those seeds beyond what I could likely accomplish on my own makes me happy in ways that are difficult to put into words.
My biggest wish is that those who could benefit from cannabis have access to it with minimal barriers. I do hope those people come to OG and learn how to grow this wonderful plant and find rewarding fellowship with this awesome group of people, but more than any other consideration I hope that more people who want to grow this amazing plant and find the strains that work best for them will have that opportunity.
Finding others that felt similarly here on OG is what motivated me to create an account, and is why I’m here today.
And with that said, I hope every single person who reads these words is having an excellent day!
Best wishes! 
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i’m ok with the twice a year shipment and 20 per shipment. also maybe use the permanent list for all runs (then we dont have to keep adding our names to runs). if some one new wants to join, contact the distributor to be added to the list? we all sign up for them all anyway 
(bunch of seed junkies)
i do think the preservation threads could be more private, maybe seen by all but # of pips to reply to it (not sure if that’s possible)?
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Amen, brother. You have a great attitude.
As I’ve read on this forum, there will be plenty of opportunities to acquire seeds via preservation runs, trading, etc. 
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I’m going to go ahead and throw my 2 cents in here. I like the direction that this seems to be going with @MomOnTheRun’s idea. Two shipments a year will really streamline the system and make it easier on our amazing distributors. I think the price definitely needs to be tweaked. I honestly didn’t realize the full costs associated with being a breeder and distributor. I took into account the time, grow costs, shipping and everything, but didnt account for packing supplies.
I wonder if it would be possible to use the amount collected that goes towards breeder costs to purchase a bulk shipment of supplies, and sent to the breeders as needed. Like instead of the breeder paying $1 per container (not sure the exact costs, think motr said it somewhere above) for 300 pieces, buy a shipment of 5,000 pieces at a much lower price and ship them to the breeders as needed. I dont know enough about the pricing to say if it would save some costs, but something to consider.
I also like the ideas of there being a separate forum for co-op grows. Keep the preservation going as a twice or 3 time yearly subscription type thing, and people could also put their own give aways, like @ReikoX did with the FAM, and @paintedfire420 did with the GHPxC99. Breeders forum for just general breeding discussion.
I also like @Badfishy1’s idea about the tiered system. Up the minimum pips to enter the co-op section, and if possible create a higher initial limit or something. Say, set the pip level to enter the co-op area to 3 or 4. Then, set up the wiki thread with an initial edit level of 10 pips. When were sure there’s enough to go around open it to change the wiki level to allow 5 pips to sign up. At the end of the grow it can be opened as a first come first serve for the 3 or 4 pip people until a couple weeks before shipping. Add the remainder to the server fund sales or supporter giveaways. If added to server fund auctions, it could also work as the portion going to the server from the preservation runs, freeing that money to be used to help cover breeder/distributor costs or those in need. As for lower access members who are in need of quality genetics but can’t get in on the run, I would think all they would need to do was ask. By the time you have 3 or 4 pips you’ve likely contributed enough to be known (and it really doesn’t take much to reach 3-4 pips…), and the generosity of this community is huge. I myself, and many others here, would give a lower member my place, and have offered to bow out on short runs so someone who really needs them could get them.
I’m not entirely sure what level of modification we really have. Like I know you need a certain number of pips to enter certain sections and to edit wiki, but can we create a higher level wiki setup and change it later?
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Also, even though it gets more restrictive initially, I think these changes ultimately serve to uphold the original objectives of this project. Rare and discontinued strains are preserved for the future. In most cases the pip levels won’t restrict anyone from being able to sign up as most runs have more than covered the number needed, and the ones that didn’t are being re-run. At the same time were adding in positive external effects as well, such as covering server, breeder, and distributor costs. I see the ultimate goal to end with a 0 costs distribution. Server, breeder, and distributors being able to run with the only thing they have to put in is their time.
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Right, Thats what we want to try to prevent…have had a few contribute towards International postage and packaging though its the same people every time
That isn’t what I was saying - we need these discussions just trying to be mindful of where we are having it thats all…I could have moved it though chose not to as its productive with ideas for all to contribute as some are making suggestions that could increase our expenses. Like I said just jumping into the conversation and pointing out issues as well as, feasible solutions as we go along…everyone’s input is invaluable and keeps us all thinking how we can improve 
Its funny you added this as I was looking into it after my post master recommended it going into the mailing season
Your right, it isn’t hard to move up in pips…I dunno about the tier though would think 5 pips minimum and leaning toward 10 pips if we go with the twice a year mailings
This is what we need to know as these discussions take place 
I’ll add that to the list of ideas 
adding this too
Keep the discussion going - i’ll be back later after work 
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This is why I was trying to shy you all away from a per box breakdown and charge a fee per each strain in the box regardless of how often you ship. I just believe that will cover all of the expenses instead of coming up short like this… still just a thought, but in my math brain it makes much more sense. People getting 6 strains for example would easily cover say a shortfall if someone only wanted one strain etc…
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I got 10 pips in under a month so yeah it doesn’t take long
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I’ve been here for months and only have 5.
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