Really? This is one I have little bit of faith in because it doesn’t sound like all the others to me. It sounds like old school skunk when “skunk” just meant “good pot”. The phenos of pine, sweet skunk, and sour skunk is how I remember. Not sure about the body odor pheno, but this is supposed to be a cross of a SEA haze and a hashplant so maybe that’s where it came from. And none of the terp examples you mentioned were listed except “sweet”. Are you sure you looked at the right strain? I don’t know the guy and I understand the doubts, though. Everyone taks of RKS and nobody can produce it.
Also from my memory RKS was always a rare to uncommon pheno depending on your seed source. I don’t remember a well-worked RKS.
I have not yet reached the “it doesn’t exist except in the hazy minds of smokers” stage
I do believe it exists, if not as a live plant, the ingredients or DNA to produce certain terps oils or whatever must still be around…
I was very careful when choosing a name for this thread not to include the unmentionable skunk lol
Yes really, perhaps I’m a little pessimistic about breeders descriptions haha. Too many would be willing to say anything to sell seeds yknow…
You are right he did not mention grapes and oranges, but did say lemon lime startburst and sweet can be found 5times on the page…
Skunk to mean good pot I think is uk slang ?
Always meant skunk spray for many of us
What I’m saying is once you include body odor, feet, cheese, earwax, sweet, fruit, earth, solvent might as well throw skunk in there what does it hurt lol
Also there’s no body odor in straight skunk
No cheese, no sweet, no fruit, cinnamon …name em it’s probably not in skunk
Once you start throwing any and every “foul” odor around the name skunk, especially if you push rks, I instantly dismiss it as marketing
Those B/O and pines are phenotypes. This strain has 4 of them: pine,b/o,sweet skunk (like skunk #1), and sour skunk (rks). the terp smells are unique to their individual phenotypes. Just because other smells are mentioned doesn’t mean they all exist in the same plant/phenotype.
The terpine profile of decay/rot still exists and so does skunk. Just check out cali-o ae77 and crosses made from it such as tangie or ecto cooler. I’ve heard the same about the actual clone-only green crack as well. The terps exist but to get enough them all in the same plant always been a genetic lottery. And genetics were much more random before the hybrid boom of the nineties.
Personally I think the interest in rks is very recent and because so many breeders are trying to create it that ironically somebody will eventually create a stable rks for the 1st time and label it a "recreation"lol.
This made me chuckle because it could be true
I was thinking along the lines of some terps must be antagonistic to skunk… so the wider the range of smells one can find in a line the harder it would be to find skunk… I guess it doesn’t rule it out completely haha
I know from pheno hunting different lines that smells can be all over the place… but am wondering if in such case the base terps could all be the same but in different ratios… can a new one emerge at random or something… ?
Then I’m stuck I feel a deep dive into terpland is in order…
Let me put on my lab coat
With half the tent filled with skunk and cheese derivatives, let’s say its a double serrations fest!
Example:
CheeseCanukxCheesexUFS18 #7
Then there’s the freak Colombian cheese #1
Throwing a few triple serrations
But also it’s growing baby leafs at the weirdest of places LOL
Did I mention the irregular serrations lol freak
@Mithridate
Brother
breeding for performance and genetic consistency is second nature to me because I have been doing it for my entire adult life.
Once I started growing the cannabis plant, I found them to be intriguing so I set out to learn as much as I could about them.
I started breeding cannabis because of my wife’s glaucoma. It’s was impossible to find a plant that effectively treated her condition so i created one for her.
Since I also suffer from nerve damage, joint pain, and arthritis, i made sure the strain was equally effective at treating those conditions as well.
One by one I begin to piece together strains that met my needs. It was long process, but it gave me time to lear about the plant, the breeding process, and it’s genetics traits. Of course this wasn’t easy since I don’t come from a cannabis background. But I managed and eventually created my Nympho.
I may not know anything about land races or sam the skunk man or even skunk # 18. But that didn’t stop me from achieving my goals by crea
I used what I leaned from working with the animals and applied it to my cannabis plants.
So yes I know about dominate and recessive traits. A kit co-dominate traits and hybrid vigor as well as mutations and inbreeding suppression.
Most of all, I know how not to “breed myself into a hole”.
I’m glade to see guys. Starting to use some of the expression that I talk about. Such as “breeding tool” and “not breeding oneself into a hole”. That tells me that people are paying attention to what I say.
So you want to know if the rks gene is recessive.
Recessive genes can be tricky to identify be cause of other modifiers such as Co-dominance, as well as the negative effects of hybridization.
Being a hybrid doesn’t always mean that a plant will display vigor in a positive manner.
So we also have to consider negative vigor which is much harder to spot and identify since it effects want be notice until future breedings are made.
Which is why i tackle a breeding problem at the source, the parents. And the reason that I don’t practice open pollination. I want to know the capabilities of every plant as an individual so I know who did what to what. But breed how you want to breed since they are your plants
I’m sure there where a few guys back then that notice the rks was disappearing. But how do you correct a problem when you don’t know where it began. Im sure the practice of bx only made then problem worse since the terp disappearance was gradual and barely noticeable.
Little by little, the rks was disappearing because the plants that carried the Gene that cause the terp to be less pronounced were being breed back into the genetics. With every cross the rks killing gene was getting stronger and stronger until the rks was no more.
The remnants of the rks are still inside the plants but breeders still insist on breeding plant that are inflicted with the gene that hides the rks.
That’s why it’s so hard for people to reproduce the rks phenos.
But what do i know since I’m only an auto breeder. A auto breeder with rks. .
That’s a beautiful thing man
Wow
I’ve seen multiple people suggest to read what chicken and cattle breeder are doing. That’s excellent…
Hahah trust me if I could go back I’d skip that part too (sam and skunk)
Great advice, breeding in the dark is relying on luck
Don’t worry as much as I like to read and learn about breeding, I’ll always be one stubborn mofo
You’re not the first I hear say this, I don’t fully understand what’s blocking what, but I do intend to find it
Personally I think it may be a harder pool to work with… due to the fact that you can’t keep cuttings…
Curious if nympho was auto from the start? Or was your creation missing something at one point that only a certain plant could fill and it just happened to be auto …?
New conspiracy idea.
People just used to take Mexican brick weed and have trained skunks, skunks spray the weed, they get a treat. It’s that easy lol
Seriously though Im really hoping all your hard work pays off, I’ve learned lots and super impressed the whole journal, keep it up
Lmao the actual skunk spray must smoke incredibly rancid
There’s a ton of theories going around… from nutrients to cure… genetics… and I have a few of my own haha
So far each line has a stinker or two, except the sour lemon skunk… these have no smell at all.
My favorites are the Colombian cheese followed by jinglepots cheese, but they are definitely not skunk.
The tiny 4" skunks I started from seeds of the previous round open pollination are already smelling like skunk. Will it stay like that? Only time will tell
Thanks for the kudos, I’m 100% sure there will be a few keepers this round.
The genetics are pretty straightforward there, I hear….
Update time!
No pics
First I want to say that I’m behind schedule by about a week. So plants are probably already way too big, stink way too much, there’s way too many. Wtf am I doing.
Furthermore, I’m one stubborn mofo. So…
Day1 flip.
Hoodoo x sk18 stink
Colombian cheese stink
Disgust-O stink
Jinglepot cheese stink
Sourlemonskunk meh. A+ structure, vigor and a prolific rooter. Smelly? Niet as of now
That’s it, journal over, case closed lol
I jokes, I jokes.
I like that @SkunkHunt101 crosses start smelling a bit later, too often I find plants that start funky and settle into a polite smell.
Give me them rank finishers Ha!
Cheese #8 still hates me, thankfully it’s the exception.
To take cuts of to not take cut is the question… as you probably correctly guessed, I’m hurting for more room and can’t accommodate 120 cuttings for 2 months. I’m torn between three courses of action. One of them and the most likely scenario is taking cuts from the most promising plants after sexing and hope I’m somehow a weed genius lol. With that method I’m hoping a majority of keepers will already be cloned and if I missed a few I can always reveg. I really want to avoid the reveg fest I had last round.
I’ll have pics next time I feel artsy
Awww man, now I actually have to use my brain and read?! haha, just kidding
If I was running numbers like that I’d probably be doing tissue cultures.
Oh.man I looked into that months back and I am not ready for that level of fuckery
I grew shroom for a while and I’m quite happy without. I like my chaos for lack of better term lol
What u mean bro?? Just dip some leaves in vodka, toss em in some jello and boom!! Instant tissue culture. If only it was that simple!
Lol, that’s exactly what goes through my head every time I think of getting into TC
LOL
Simple right? Take 19100 cuts a day for 3.99.
I see the appeal though, If I was truly setup to run high numbers this would be a worthy endeavor. Or to keep precious moms from ever so popular viruses, even “clean” passed around cuts.
Right now I’m just half assing pheno hunts… not looking for a girlfriend
Just do Iranian x Afghan x Pakistan all 3 have to be acrid phenos and boom, there you have it. I had an Iranian that smelled like something was rotting, thought I messed up on the cure but couldn’t find any mold. After a longer cure it became more tolerable but it smelled pretty unpleasant, the taste was savory/herbal with very mild fruit on the backend. The tuna Kush I grew out had some sulfur/garlic/rubber terps with no sweetness, it’s allegedly a paki heirloom since those acrid terps are common. It’s really not hard to make something “disgusting” or acrid so to speak, just gotta stop tryna do it with all these hype strains
Well Afghanis are probably growing a cookie cross by now. But I agree, if I could find genuine recluse village paki iran afghan, I’d grow them as soon as they landed
No hype in this tent, limited testers and og member crosses only.
Oldschool unadulterated early 90’s seeds are my best bet for now
I’m not worried one bit that I’ll find the one from my old skunk line. It’ll take over north America straight from muh gardens
Always option C! Re-veg your faves at the end of the grow
Well, the smell in here is getting to my head, im out for now