I have never had the space and the privacy to grow outdoors, before, but I do now.
Time to order some fast finishing seeds and do the same- pop them in December and try to get them out early. But I think 50th parallel is a couple weeks behind cali. I’ll have to look into it, not as easy as putting a thermostat on a fan 
I’ll be following closely and cheering on!
I recommend the following video(hour long):
The growers Jorge covers in this are further north than myself at about 40-41N and they are all receiving more coastal influence(humdity) and higher altitudes. I’m at 20 ft., they’re in the 3-4000 ft range.
He also shows the time-lapse of one garden started in January in a plastic greenhouse, ravaged by quail, turn out many pounds.
After a decade I’d say the climate in CA’s capitol is a blend of low-desert with some coastal influence. The future seems like Africa on the south-west Sahara’s border “Sahel” (say hell - ha!), but with colder winters.
Git yo learn on 'errun:
Im sure I will enjoy watching whatever you grow
I just love participating in a poll
Thanks man. 
Me too.
What I’m wondering is how to get more users to vote without being an ass & over-posting…maybe a PM with the people I know here & they can invite more?
@MadScientisthas a new laboratory to incubate so OG’s a little quiter now. heh
I enjoy your pictures & posts a lot; it really is challenging to pull that all off. 
If your laws change for the better I hope you forget as easily as I have, how tough guerilla can be. It really is f’n wild how 
helicopters see my garden all day long. It’s a safe presumption that there are some hundreds in this county of some 4 million people.
Have you ever heard of anyone in the UK/britain growing in an allotment?
(The whole episode was worth watching, imo. Monty Don’s dog Nigel was like a surrogate after I lost my last dog. )
you may wanna share that over at the U 
K thread, dunno…
I often forget to thank people for taking the time for stopping by so thanks
Maybe you could just edit your post and tag a load of regulars so they stop by…
I know about the helicopters, they get my heart racing, should help keep my ticker, “tocking”
Visit before last there was a quadcopter flying towards and very close to my nepal patch as I was leaving, shit myself, never left so quick. It stopped at the road nearby so I hope they didnt see me. Its in the next county and they have more money to spend on policing stupid shit
I chucked some used soil at my allotment community compost heap, a month later the plice were there bagging up volunteer plants 
I looked over the results so far and they are somewhat confusing… Shit don’t add up to 100%… but kinda works, right?
We have an elecoral reform referendum coming soon, and I am afraid that proportional representation is gonna look like this poll 
I had to figure that one out too… The voter gets 1 to 3 choices per poll and can skip a poll. At least there aren’t more votes than is possible-- then we’d be in “hanging chad” territory. (I hear human "chad"s are more prone to infidelity too, crazy shit. can’t remember the female variant.).
i heard a show talking about how ultimately, democracy is limited to mediocrity because of the low end of the societal bell-curve. In other words, the stupid & the ignorant have no ability to evaluate intelligence or ability, much like the immoral person is a poor judge of morality. 
yeah.
if anyone wonders, I looooved the movie “Idiocracy”. see it if you haven’t.
Yes, saw and very much enjoyed that movie. Especially the bit about a law degree from Costco…
And I totally agree about needing intelligence to be able to assess it. I guess evolution really has no purpose, just ploughs along with unstoppable pragmatism.
So far… about half of those invited have cast their votes and I’m seeing a glimpse of what’s popular. In the case of a tie I’ll just pick one on 11/30. 
It occurs to me this is also a good preview of who might like what for christmas. 
Thanks again you’s guys(& 3 gals). 
10/15/2018
Tick-tock-tick-tock… 
Harvesting bud in 10 days no matter whatsky, little seed-farm 11/3. 
what a mess. i’m tired.
Good Ole OrangeSunshine#1… She’s lost a few ounces from botrytis/budrot that have become soggy bubble-hash mash, but there’s no amber in sight, anywhere, here.
OSS1 bud
SourLifeSaver… these dead leaves that don’t detach are maddening as hell. WTF?
MasterOG (bagseed, baby…)
MonsterCookies (another bagseed or hermlet from this spring)
DarkDevil auto in ripe, late flower, seeded with RedCherryBerry pollen. Mmm.
Pretty, seeded BerryWhite(RedCherryBerry pollen)
RedCherryBerry#8, pollinated by her brother. I love internet porn. 
Uuuuuuugly, slow, lame GDP, showing some purple with the seasonal cooling. I hate this plant & will enjoy composting it’s stems & stalk like no other.
And the coup de grace, my finaly embarassment for today (I hope), @anon32470837 …this sad looking Durban seed-whore is what I was referring to in a post earlier this year. I was experiencing heat waves & got frustrated with the watering, so I “mulched” it & gave it a “drinking trough”.
y’all…
As of now I’m gonna close the poll unless I hear extreme protests. 
So thanks to you I’ll try to run 3 large females of:
TheBlack x Champagne
B.O.G. SourLifeSaver
and there’s a tie between my F1 and DankSinatraF2…
…so I choose the DankSinatraF2 because I can still choose my own creations for the other 3 “big” plants.
I’ll probably get started a month earlier than planned & give myself extra time to determine sex(& re-start if needed).
And again, thanks for the help, this has been fun. 
My tenative picks for the other 3 “big outdoor” plants are:
BlackWidowxSensiStar from @Ftlob
TGA/Heroes ConspiracyKush(f) x B.O.G. SourLifeSaver (My F1)
yetiogXherijiuanaXglacier from @i_thewindcries
I wish I could grow out my whole back yard but time aren’t 'a-changin that fast. So I’ll sneak as many small ones around here & there & any & everywhere.
When this harvest is done & I have a better idea, it may turn out that I’ll need a mid-year bumper crop and do some light-dep.
10/25/2018
Garden update. Botrytis/budrot does not go away. LITFA doesn’t even 'faze it. I’d hoped to let the seedpatch go another week (9/10) but they’re variously fucked up. DarkDevil was attracting ants & aphids & definitely finished first. OSS1 was damn near dead 
, SilverOG2 & BerryWhite were picking up the botrytis, ConspiracyKush, DurbanP, & Glacier OG were all pretty clean. Just got sick of watching things degrade & chopped 'em. I’ll try and start giving away in a couple weeks, will announce in proper 
fashion.
Here’s the winter-weed. RedCherryBerry#8. Due by Xmas.
Now it’s time to rake up the cigarette butts.
Selected 2 out of 6 clones I had by visual appeal(“my idea” of candidates).
Some of the rejects were taller or bushier but when I transplanted the 2 & composted the other 4–the rejected clones had much less root mass than the 2 that I chose.
A weird way to measure some learning progress at all of this.
as you requested, Overgrow…Left to right:
@nube 's Dank Sinatra F2 exploded out of the gates, popping 6/6 in 12 hours 
my SourLifeSaver x ConspiracyKush (have more to germinate)
BOG SourLifeSaver, my last 5 beans, 5/5
@I_thewindcries 's HerijuanaYetiGlacier 
@Ftlob 's BlackWidowSensiStar x Blueberry (my bad, didn’t realize the Blueberry cross until a day ago ).
@deep_rob 's TheBlack x Champagne 
1 maybe 2 of 4 popped, I’m nervously hopeful. If they don’t make it, I’ll grab the “runner-up” entry from the poll, @50State 's OrangeSunshine#1 x (my)Barney’s RedCherryBerry. 
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There’s finger hash everwhere I touch. 
For a second I thought i was looking at brownies and cherry cordials! 
Kinda update. Sad, little closet.
2019 outdoor babies on the left; Good news on TheBlackXChampagne-- 100% germ & grow. They were quite a bit slow to start but giver(maker, candle-stick-shaker) @deep_rob did state they’re oldies but goodies. 
In the middle are the RedCherryBerry#8 clones telling me they do not like me OR my orchid-mix experiment. I think.
At right are DarkDevil X RedCherryBerry(solo cup) and 2 GirlTime X SourLifeSaver(because pollen doesn’t follow my commands… 
Pretty sure they aren’t S1/herms). These were started to statisfy pre-harvest boredom.
And a power outlet strip that I try to water occaisonally… 
Sigh oh nara
Reminds me I have one I need to get off the floor. Thank the maker it’s plugged into a GFI outlet.
I totally want one of those. 
ran with scissors. has a scar.
