@upstate , a little off topic but I didn’t know where to put it so please forgive me, do you know anything about the Hunza Valley landrace? I read somewhere that it’s nothing like the Kush lines Nothing like it! And I’m wondering if that’s true and if it is, like how? Thanks
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I gotta know more! And it sounds like it would go the distance outside for you @Upstate , I’m going to get some of these beans but all my cash is tied up right now so it’ll be a couple months before I can get them oh and the Rif to by the way (Angus re-uped) with some new drops 
sorry I’m stoked about it I mean come on! A BLD that’s not a kush ! Oh snap ! Lol edit sorry I’m not trying to mud up the thread, we can delete it if you want to, I was just hoping for more info. Thank you for your patience and understanding
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Hunza’s ( Baltistan)proximity to Xinjiang, China and the ancient silk road means there is more Tibetan influence in this area. Hopar Valley is similar.
This one will be difficult in New York outdoors. Gilgit/ Baltistan is very dry. Might have to be grown or at least flowered during its final weeks indoors. Picture Landrace Warden Hopar Valley is up above a wats. Here’s a photo from Hunza Valley and a Screenshot of the silk road location.
This Hopar grow will be a different thread.
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The plants are all coming along nicely. I’m unable to tell which ones had the damp off earlier now. The smallest plant I am sure was not one of the victims. Plants were put into one gallon containers Sunday.
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Always love your threads upstate. I’ve always wanted to grow some old school genetics, you seem to have it down.
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@nick131740 Thanks. I have fun doing them.
With good fertile soil they grow themselves. You should definitely give it a whirl. Plenty of people willing to give a hand if you run into issues but I think they are easier to grow than hybrids.
One thing I should mention with this type of landrace is that when you see the leaves begin to droop, ( and the plants are not dry) as I did on Saturday, Check the underside of the pot and see if the roots are coming out. The plants will often let you know that they running are out of room by giving you a saggy look. To me they Look as if they are letting their head and shoulders hang down like a dog that crapped on the floor. If you’ve owned a dog you know the look, lol. With my own old Afghan the 1st plants to droop are always the males. 99% accurate. I’m curious to see what happens as these plants hit sexual maturity. Will the males get that saggy look before the females?
I could have left the plants in their half gallon pots for one more week ,but managed to keep all the root balls intact during transplant.
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Interesting observation.
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I think it’s just because the males’ taproot hit’s the bottom of the pot before the females
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Very nice @Upstate, I love the structure of this strain, very uniform. Looking very healthy
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@Mrgreenthumb I’m starting to see the different phenos now. This is no Polyhybrid,but there will be variety in the plant height and effect, only its a predictable/ dependable type of variety rather than a random and complete crapshoot. This is a great landrace for the phenohunter.
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It’s like a open pollinated f2 that has been open pollinated everytime over and over that the different lines with in the original cross is stabilized ? Years and years and years ? Edit like a natural cross from joining regions maybe? I gotta check a map, or a human influence from long time ago that’s been field open pollinated for hundreds if not thousands of years? Maybe
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I feel like I already know the answer to that question but I just made some live resin and it’s pretty killer lol like mind numbing real gasy with like a plum/ papaya with a earthy like rose kinda heavy but not bad for a auto (this is not connected to this thread I’m just explaining my forgetfulness) lol 
Like totally from a long time ago man like totally long time lol lol fk I’m stoned lol
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Pretty close. The males that remain to help make a future generation are selected and left in the field, based on color or flower size and density. Seeds at harvest time are kept from favorite females for the next generation. (@LandraceWarden correct me if thats not right)Basically what i did myself for 25 years with my own strains. Keeps plenty of variable genetics but the strain inches forward each year, slowly getting better and better.
The original genetics used were from all around South Asia. A true melting pot.
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Cool, I’m glad my high ramblings made sense lol
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I just got my Tirah seeds from RSC. Can’t wait to run these.
They also threw in a pack of the Nanda Devi. I’m real excited about those too!
I really need a full size production facility, just for my hobby and all the strains I want to play with 
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The Tirah Valley is dominant result of natural selection, each and every generation is improved as only best of the best survives to reproduce.
Tirah cultivation is hash centered, so all of the flowers are turned into Hash unlike modern cultivation which is based on flower yields for raw material.
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Is there no selection of males @LandraceWarden ? I thought the farmers hired help to go around the fields and kill the inferior male plants…
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indeed the farmers cull males of early flowering i am refering to the selections of female
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the top right with Narrow leaves looks killer
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