Torture Gardens

Thanks VRG,very much appreciated your comment!

Looking for a balanced mix of individuals for provocative and evocative sexual encounters between them and with friends :slight_smile:

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Overview of the small cabinet for vege

Little Killer Skunk growing.
The others I grew before also were very compact, small and slow grow on the seedling stage.
I found lot of resilience and smell on the males while flowering.

@VRG you mentioned " if you have really good eyes" to spot sex. Any tips on the details? No pistils, just some stretch at W4 (#6-7)… Some have not stretch at all? ( Famale?)
Males are usually the first to appear:) ?

NOTE: Please note that this is a Torture Garden.
Currently runnig 12/1 cycle with low tech 20-22C 68-78 RH Vipaspectra dimmed af 20%!!! ( Yes 20W) 60x40x70H W4( i guess)

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12 hours on and 1 hour off? What is the thinking behind that? I honestly have no idea why you would do that. Is this something you’re pioneering? or is it based on something you’ve read? Please share a link if you have one :slight_smile:

18/6 is tried and tested for 50 years indoors and people use it because it works.

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:slight_smile: ello VRG,
many thanks to reply to my message.
You can’t image how happy and honoured I am to have you on board.
You are a legend to me,but I can’t say this, so please dont consider it:)

The gas lantern routine has been pioneering for more than 50 years, and I am sure you heard about it.
I guess its a victorian routine to keep plant in vegetative when lights and electric lights were still unknown.
My grandma used to keep tomatoes in vege during winter ( San Marzano people) with this technique ( filanent bulb!)

Over 12-13h plants go to vege, correct?..the extra 1 hour allow the plant to stay in vegetative with the minimum ammount of light required.

Does it work? :slight_smile:
Absolutely:) but 5 hours of light per day are 5 hours less energy and there are two main effects:
Economically ( positive) -5h bills/day (20w is ridiculous reduction, but still it is). sustainability still count
and growing ( negative-positive):
For mother, seedling, germination, and normal lazy growing it is working well ( imho)…for growing normally to achieve the best in the minor time possible, of course doesn’t ( 5 hours of light less per day).

But… why 18/6 and not 20/4 or 17/7 or 16/8?
12/12 makes sense isn’t ? It is the maximum time you can give for bloom, more will back to vege.
Who is growing for example NLD with 12/12 over 20 or more weeks? Why not 11/13 or 10/14.
I love Dj Short tips on this topic.
I am sure I am wrong, but…is it not funny?

The 20W + 12/1 are the base of my Torture Gardens where I stress the genotype and the consequent phenotime appearance as I can with the intent to select in small ( very small) population. Under stress, the genotypes resilience reveals themself in my opinion. Good genetics survives, omogeneous one perish.
On this I am an asshole pionering ( how to breed in a small population without hybridisation). Kidding I am just a bitch;)

VRG: Let’s face it: I won’t never achieve results as you or other professional grower/breeders do. I don’t have time, money, experience and/or patience or courage maybe to do so.

I just love being an herbalist or gardener and I consider that my only support to the community is to experiment on the way.
Because the process is what count the most not the result.

I am a foreigner arriving to your country dreaming about cannabis culture.Considering that first sign of respect should be to grow your culture and traditions, preserving such culture.

You may believe that cheese, livers,etc where a selection from a Skunk#1 sensi seed pack from holland. I am sure you don’t.
There is more brotherhood in cheese that what everyone think.
There is more breeding in both cheese and livers that what everyone believe.
Imho. But still I am a bitch.

Why someone stay always in the shade, it is probably his ( we know he is he) decision, but that genetics are more special that what we think.
That’s why people still hack your work and why your work is still there ( always less unfortunately).

We love it

Btw: some people are what they are. Some we like, others no. But over and above discrepancies there is still a great work to do as community on the cannabis scene.
People is missing you on the other side of the online ocean! Dont forget you are still appreciated and readed and asked…:slight_smile: maybe you can make peace?

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Some picture of the flower room with:

  • White Widow Bilbao cut
  • ESB by Fleaur du Mal
  • Erba del Diavolo by personal local source

Very keen to try erba del diavolo. It could be everything but currently it’s smelling very well, beautiful looks ans sticky trichomes.

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Sexing all Killer Skunks.
Testing the eazy plugs over my dro cloner DIY.

3 Weeks for cloning, Vs 2 weeks in other normal medium.

Here vege mothers + 7 Killer Skunk seedlings



Here sexing

Killer Skunk #6 is Male … the firstborn

Killer Skunk #7 seems a male as well


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While in flowering we have:

White Widow Euskalaria cut
Week 8, tricomes are cloudy but i would like to try another week.

Erba del diavolo personal selected cut is done at week 8

ESB by Fleur du Mal is still requiring at least 2 weeks (10w)



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Lovely grow!
ESB is one of our most favorite buds I grew out last year!!
I’ve also grown out and have some going on now, Syrups Celia Bx1, super special buds to us, for the exceptional dreamy mind scape it gives us.
I can also see why, from reading the article this morning, about UK’s energy needs, and how they are buying much of it now, and it’s so expensive.
So yeah, I totally get reducing juice, if your getting results you can live with.
Sorry to babble, again lovely grow!!
webe

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Cutting WW this week ,( w 9) 8 would have been ok also


Erba del diavolo ACA calabrese rossa will cut tomorrow…perfectly done at w8


Starting stressing test for my 3 clones to see how fast they turn herma…

If they do bin!

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Firstly many thanks to stop by, and for the kind words :slight_smile:

I am a fanatic of UK Landraces and Heirloom specifically if sativas.

Although I started here when Vic High and old original crew it’s Old Timer1 legacy, geniuous, kindness that brought me to UK420

I am trying all the genetics I could find of him and grew already:

Oldtimer1 B Line F2
ESB F2
CeliaxCelia
Motivation x Smile
All amazing hacking by subbies uk420 crew.
Love them!!!

Waiting for @gsyrup to release some of his wonderful hybrids ( but without pressure mate) and still looking at other uk landraces on the process of hacking my own UK landraces:)

Landrace is a term that I take with some poetic interpretation;)

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As I continue my ongoing Killer Skunk breeding project, the process of selection has become more intense and deliberate. I am now working with seven remaining seeds from this line, carefully observing each seedling’s development and evaluating their potential for breeding. My primary objective is to identify both a male and a female plant that demonstrate the ideal genetic traits I want to preserve and enhance through future crosses and backcrossing experiments.

During the initial stages, two plants—Killer Skunk #6 and #7—stood out due to their rapid growth and vigor. They were the first to reach the point where I could cut and sex them, and both turned out to be males. While these plants displayed impressive early growth rates, I’ve chosen to reject them from my breeding pool. The reason for this is rooted in my experience and the genetics I’m aiming to refine: faster-growing males often carry traits that I find less desirable. Such traits can sometimes lead to plants that prioritize speed over the development of the dense, resinous flowers and unique terpene profiles that make Killer Skunk so special. By excluding these males, I am narrowing my focus to those that may have a better balance of growth characteristics and more promising genetic potential.

With those two males removed from contention, I am left with five seedlings still in the process of sexing. The tension and excitement at this stage are palpable; each seedling carries the possibility of being the genetic cornerstone of future Killer Skunk crosses. My goal is to identify a male that shows the ideal structure, vigor, and, most importantly, the terpene profile and resin production traits that align with the strain’s legacy. These features are crucial in ensuring that the offspring maintain the distinct aroma, potency, and overall quality that define Killer Skunk and set it apart from other strains.

Simultaneously, the search for the perfect female is equally significant. I am looking for a female plant that embodies the Killer Skunk essence—a combination of compact, heavy bud formation and an unmistakable terpene signature. Once I have identified the right pair, I plan to conduct a series of crosses and backcrossing trials. These experiments are designed to stabilize desirable traits, enhance the overall vigor of the line, and maintain the genetic integrity of this classic strain while exploring new expressions.

This meticulous selection process is not just about finding any male and female for crossing; it’s about preserving the essence of Killer Skunk while also pushing the genetic boundaries. Each decision I make—rejecting certain plants, favoring others—impacts the future generations and the potential of this strain to evolve in ways that honor its heritage while offering something new and exciting to the cannabis community.

Through patience, observation, and a deep respect for the genetic intricacies of the strain, I aim to contribute a unique take on Killer Skunk that reflects both the timeless appeal of the original and the exciting potential of thoughtful breeding. But

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