Transporting pollen Ethics/etiquette

Question:
I got a hostile comment on another board about driving my herm (not yet dropping pollen AFAIK) across town to my girlfriends house. I made a “joke” about pollinating her neighborhood instead of mine.

Am I out of line driving, joking, or letting a herm bloom in the suburban wind?

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I think not, for the most part. :wink:

Throwing herm pollen at someone’s grow would be fucked but also very creative. :joy:

Without seeing the chat(no thanks :laughing:) it’s hard to say but some folks are :chestnut: :chestnut: a bit over-sensitive.

:evergreen_tree:

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Perfectly fine to drive them over to the local corporate outside grow and spread some love…

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Speaking of throwing pollen on plants o have a story…

I have a friend who has some country property with his barn and such around it … He told me that he found some plants in buckets out there and they look nice… well he’s not the illegal activity type and I’m not the ripping type so I told him let me know if they were still there in a month cuz I have some pollen to give them

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First, is it herm (IE: Bad genetics that will likely produce herm offspring), or reversed (Either intentionally or unintentionally)? The distinction does make a bit of a difference in how the plant should be treated.

If it is a herm, then at the very minimum you should at least make an effort to remove all the Male parts and it should not be allowed to release pollen or reproduce. Transporting a known hermaphrodite without at least attempting to take precautions to prevent the contamination of other plants in the area would be very bad form. Most growers and breeders agree that hermaphrodite plants that are not intentionally reversed should be immediately culled to prevent proliferation of the undesired traits. I personally would be pissed if my plants were pollenated by a careless or inexperienced grower with bad genetics. It also has the possibility of destroying a breeder or growers livelihood.

If you are growing a Male or reversed plant out, precautions should be made to at least attempt to prevent contamination of other’s crops, such as containment of the pollen to your own personal grow area, or at least taken to a remote location where it is unlikely to contaminate other grow ops.

As for the trolling, if they were a dick about it, then they deserved to get trolled. It doesn’t take much to be civil about things.

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I myself would not even mess with a herm.
They’re not to be bred cuz your worsening the genetics.
And to letting that spooge go flying thru the air, would you want someone doing that to you?
That shit can fly for over a hundred plus miles just like a snowflake in the wind.
Not cool at all.

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Thank you, this is helpful info.
My city has legal grow laws. I therefore assume that pollen is present and probably abundant; herm and otherwise. True, I do not wish to add to the undesirable genetics in the air.

Some facts:

  • Korin was very slow to show definitive sex. Three weeks ago (popped in early April) I got a first glimpse of what looked like a single female indicator. Nanners appeared last week followed by abundant balls. Too many to make selective removal possible.
  • I stressed Korin in many ways (light leaks, hst, grafting experiments, some bugs)
  • a clone is not (yet?) showing male traits
  • Korin is showing yellow flowers AND pistilfull buds.

They are currently my only viable source of pollen as 2 rounds of CS have not produced a reversal. Wah :violin:!

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“Her” is my girlfriend not the commenter. Yes, he was a dick about it but it sounds from much of the above like I may want to bump up my grow hygiene.

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Ah ok, I misunderstood the part about the joke. With the added info it sounds like you’re looking to possibly produce some reversed pollen. It also sounds as if you’re unsure whether it is an actual herm or just stress induced (old school feminizing techniques, if only by accident). If it were me, I would do the branch in water trick, possibly at your girlfriend’s place, by cutting off a branch and putting it in a glass until it drops its pollen. Torch the rest of that plant, and just store the pollen until you are sure if the clone is fem, Male, or herm. This way you’re significantly reducing the risks to any grow in the area, as well as yours, and making an informed decision as to whether to produce seed with the pollen or not. If you decide to use it you can just use a paint brush or qtip to apply it to the buds you want to pollenate.

Good luck!

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A question then:

If an unstressed clone taken before Korin started showing male features remains unapologetically female, does that mean that the herming was a stress reaction and not a predetermined genetic expression?

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Never kept them long enough to find out, I know, no help

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From my understanding all plants are prone to go hermie with enough stress. Some will just turn easier than others. Its when they turn herm easily or under ideal conditions that most people try to cull out of the gene pool.

If your clone stays female with no Male parts through a whole grow then the pollen you collect from the current hermie should produce fairly stable feminized seeds. As far as I can tell, this is how early feminizing/selfing was done and should have similar results to CS.

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Thank you for all your excellent feedback! It has significantly influenced my next steps. If you have more for me on the transportation question I welcome it.

I want to talk about getting the two existing grafts (and possibly a third graft of a filial) polinated and then letting the seeds finish on Korin as a neutered bonsai, perhaps one whose only branches are female. Keeping them (good choice in pronouns, Korin!) alive over the winter and having the option of cloning in spring if anything remarkable materializes.

I’m a little high but that plan lifts my luggage.

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Most people I know just dump them, ain’t worth time and effort especially if it stays hermie, you could’ve had a stable one in it’s place by the time the Hermie finishes.

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That will perhaps be a learning for next year. It took five months for Korin to reveal their sex.

I will take what pollen I can get, make seeds and keep them until I have better.

Yield is not my issue. If I go through a gram in a week I feel like a stoner. This is all about learning and sharing (though perhaps not hermie seeds and pollen) now. “Too much trouble” may be just what I need.

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Please somebody send @AllOra some Feminised seeds so he can ditch the hermi prone genetics and not make more. I would but don’t have any fems.
Keep smiling.

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Ahhh! No! The need is for pollen! Preferably Panama Red pollen as I am told the herm tendency comes from the CG side. If I could back cross with PR that would be the best way to breed away from the trait and serve the grower community.

I have already checked with the provider of the seeds. He does not have PR pollen available. I would pay shipping if anyone had this available.

But thank you @Pedro_Bann, for the sentiment and guidance.

Edit: note, it is not my intention to breed Korin. The pollin, Darrion Gap or PR is for the other CGxPR.

The herm has been moved indoors. Skylight and drip waiters. Not optimal but this plant has survived everything I have thrown at it and taught me every step of the way.

Korin survived my 10 day absence in reduced light with water waiters at their service.

Big girly cola

Laura and Dora grafts are thriving with puffy seed bags on both.

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