Understanding breeding, how to achieve the best an strongest high, false beliefs an inbreeding depresion

If your goal is to “save” weed. Then take your anger out on every country that continue to enforce insane laws on the plant. Raging on a platform to learn, wouldnt do anyone any good! Every plant human eats have been selected for and have a super narrow genetic range.

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So losing most of your f3s due to mold from lack of selecting for mold resistance the three previous times, wasn’t messing up at at all? Or was mold never an issue so you couldn’t ever test for it to begin with? Did you find better plants in the mold resistant line(s)? Same? Worse?

You are literally doing this. See here:

How many times do I need to say that I’m just saying things are possible, if you want, and just really look at the plants.

Mother nature didn’t domesticate any of our crops.

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Lol you’re getting pretty mad here dude

I’m mad? lol. Sorry, you must be projecting.

I assume you must be a troll

…because you’re a selfish individual, and that’s how selfish people always act: like anyone trying to elevate you from your shocking level of ignorance must be a “troll.”

The online cannabis communities are full to overflowing with selfish individuals of your ilk. You’re a dime a dozen.

Strongly worded, truthful comments from knowledgeable individuals draw your type out of the woodwork like flies to shit, as you don’t actually, really care about learning anything, do you? You just want to swing your (mostly imaginary) dick around and “be somebody” online. What valuable knowledge have you actually contributed to this thread, and to the community?

And what are the credentials you provide to preach from such a high place?

It’s called “having experience based on learning to do things the right way over years of actual work in the real world, by listening to what the plant itself–the ultimate authority–has to say, instead of foolishly believing the advice of ignorant, arrogant tools online.”

When you have done the work to gain such credentials of your own, maybe you will post something in this thread that’s actually useful to other people, not just an exercise in stroking your own ego.

Nevil Schoenmakers was a big proponent of 1:1 pollinations and he did ok. Maybe he wasn’t doing it “the right way”…

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:rofl:

You’re a science minded fellow yes?

Maybe have a read here. You really ought to get that blood pressure in check.

So losing most of your f3s due to mold from lack of selecting for mold resistance the three previous times, wasn’t messing up at at all?

No, fool, it wasn’t. THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT’S SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN!

What do you mean “lack of selecting for mold resistance”? Selecting for mold resistance is exactly what happened!

Man, you are really dense!

How many times do I need to say that I’m just saying things are possible, if you want, and just really look at the plants.

You’re going to need to keep repeating it until the end of time, I guess, so that you can mislead and deceive as many noobs as possible.

Mother nature didn’t domesticate any of our crops.

No, ignorant humans did, which is why so many of these domesticated crops are in serious genetic trouble and/or on the verge of extinction. With the coca plant being a particularly great example of a plant that has become extremely bottlenecked and is now near extinction due, ironically, to the mentality of the coke-heads who bred it, with their hamfisted brute force strategy of heavy inbreeding over eons.

There are many other examples closer to home also, like potatoes and garlic for instance, both of which increasingly cannot even reproduce by seed anymore, and are thus on the road to certain extinction.

Then there’s domesticated tomatoes, whose flowers have been bred to be closed so that they mostly self pollinate. Did you know wild tomatoes aren’t like that? I have some of them growing in my garden right now.

How long do you suppose domesticated tomatoes will be able to be almost exclusively inbred before the species is eventually destroyed? I can tell you based on some of the highly inbred cultivars I’ve actually grown out, it won’t be long! Same as so many of these weak ass inbred cannabis strains that people think are so great, until they actually subject it to real world selection pressure, and it gets Fucking Destroyed.

But please, ignore the evidence and keep telling yourself that you and the rest of the ignorant apes are Really Smart and actually know what the hell you’re doing.

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But real gangsta-ass n___s don’t flex nuts
'Cause real gangsta-ass n___s know they got 'em
And everything’s cool in the mind of a gangsta…

Haha, couldnt stop laughing. But youre right though. Different breeding goals require different techniques. Its nothing to bitch about. Do what you want to do and If you get promissing results, whos to say that you are wrong. Not everyone can grow indoor and not everyone can grow outdoor. But If you want to breed, you do it with what you have and use the best techniques for that environment.

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I just wanna help get the info track right…those who read behind us can cherry pick whatever they wanna do…and read some funny troll shit for dessert

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So true brother.

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Nevil Schoenmakers was a big proponent of 1:1 pollinations and he did ok. Maybe he wasn’t doing it “the right way”…

I’m thinking once you found what you think you like…no matter strain, or what polyhybrid make up, i think there is enough genetic variety available in a 1:1 for the average grower to spend a very long time looking through happily. You wouldn’t want to start with an IBL i would think, ur not gonna want a homozygous population to start with. Honestly if you assess all we’ve said here, you could take any f1 hype throw on the market now and find a keeper if you try long enough.

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Shit - I just realized I accidentally “liked” this post (which I do not). Does anyone know how to “unlike” something? Shit.

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The ignore button works wonderfully well… :+1:

Cheers
G

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You can click the button again and it toggles the like off.

Cheers
G

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I think it’s too late by now, I tried that but realized I must have “bumped” it earlier today. Oh well.

Thanks though!

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It’s nothing wrong to like some of that post. Despite the guys candor, I see what he’s trying to reflect upon. I have mad respect for @HolyAngel and I don’t want to pic any side. It was almost a cordial conversation with both or all sides representing well. Once the tone gets personal that’s where liking a post gets awkward.
Face guy has an interesting point of view tho, and I’ve read and re read this topic to be sure. And a couple of times we were like almost agreeing on some points. I’m gathering tons of information, very valuable in essence. So can we get back on topic, and zero more dik talk :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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Best thread ive been involved in…i learned the most i think by being wrong and fixing it

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…better than fighting about flushing or defoliating…im not going back to those

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Oh, I wasn’t either, I really just didn’t want to like the post.

Although I will say that IBL’s seem to be the exception rather than the rule in today’s weed seed market, and so there is a “straw man” aspect to the new member’s argument. But yea, interesting thread for sure.

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uncomplicated approach but what ever localizes well in my environment is good enough.
My well is high in TDS so I use rain and snow.
My back yard in low on sunlight.
Plus there is me every now and then grabbing the wrong feeding bottle or over watering.
Every go, I ditch the weak or ones with too few branches or over spaced out branches. strange leaves and slow growers, those too in rush to bud and hope for the best.
but even with all that I am sure with each gen a certain percentage will kinda suck. I will again have to pick only the better.
I made great s1 with out even trying. I fertilized evey feed not knowing not to while also providing a TDS count of 730ppm. Fried the crap out of the crop and it hermed and I got great non herming fems.

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