There’s a whole slew of “extreme” phenos…not just mongiloid plants. Think genetics more than morphology. The pic i shared is a triploid, it has extra chromosomes. That means anything i breed that with can give me unique cannabinoid profiles, unique flavors, terpenes, etc. It’s best for guys/gals new to these intricacies of genetics get good at identifying a good plant/flower from bad first. I read all that stuff, can answer a myriad of difficult questions, but in the end, i don’t really use or apply the knowledge to the degree you would think i should. It really is as simple as “hey this good plant (thumps club on ground) me want more, me breed with this plant!(thumps chest)”
I call up that deep thinking stuff at certain times but generally it’s just posturing on forums.
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The pic you shared is a plant with whorled phyllotaxy. It has nothing to do with polyploidy; you can’t see ploidy, it requires a flow cytometry test. Also, triploids and other polyploids are generally infertile unless they’re bred with another plant that has the same ploidy.
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We wont know it’s whorled until it displays spiral nodal seperation after maturity. Also you cant say it isnt a triploid…ahh the good ole days of fighting on forums. Hey you ever wonder why all the top notch breeders dont hang out on forums helping you guys? Yeah this might have something to do with it.
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A fun one I’ve found is crossing a line back to its grandparent or further, like hitting Super Lemon Haze with C5Haze. You’ll likely see some extreme sativa pheno’s pop out of that.
And honestly, this. I see a lot of plants and… they’re just plants to me… but every now and then I pop a seed and one comes up and it just screams to be kept, worked with. You just know something about that plant, is it… I can’t really explain it better than that.
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My bad. I didn’t realize this was a conversation about boron. Carry on being the best breeder ever. 
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Nope, this your microphone now champ…you go ahead and enlighten the masses…ill sit here and watch…or maybe go somewhere else…
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Are there 2 puppets in the same thread?
Kudos trolls.
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I second @Cormoran, there is no doubt that that is Whorled Phyllotaxy, or more specifically, trifoliate growth. The normal two sided, alternate spacing we see is Alternate Phyllotaxy, and neither have anything to do with chromosomes/polyploidy. Have to do flow cytometry to find out.
Triploid plants are also sterile if bred with diploid’s, you need another triploid in order to get any seeds.
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Can selfing the plant do the same thing as trying to find another? Observation says that whorled symmetry is one of possibly many options to look for (transgressive segregation). I like this example terra sphere has given. Good start; “I am ignorant of what I don’t know”
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So when i go home and take photos of my triploid male and the seeds i made with a diploid…what will you say then?
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oh look, i just happen to have a photo on hand…
https://www.breedbay.org/community/threads/trifoliate-project.201366473/
Even started to document it…
And the impossible seeds…
Damn this day sucks already and it aint even 10am
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I’m saying that 3 nodes on every branch does not = triploid.
A Triploid = 3 haploid chromosomes instead of 2 and is independent of phyllotaxy(leaf morphology).
3 nodes on every branch = Trifoliate or Whorled Phyllotaxy
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There’s also tetraploids, which have 4 sets of haploid chromosomes, and is the common way to even get a triploid in the first place.
Most of cannabis has been shown to be Diploids. The usually only way to get triploid and tetraploid plants would be to dose them with colchicine, but that also shows gnarly mutations for the first few generations.
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The fact that seeds were produced from this cross only proves that the plants are likely both diploid, with one exhibiting whorled phylotaxy.
As others have said: unless you had the plants genetics tested, you wouldn’t know if it were triploid. Don’t stress it though brother, it’s a really common misunderstanding; the most challenging thing about learning something new, is acknowledging that we previously held a false belief 
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But you and the others can out of hand, without testing, declare them not triploid? That’s ummm…how should i put this…arrogant hypocrisy? Is that the right term?
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The fact of the matter is triploid plants are quite rare, trifoliate plants are not.
Science and logic dictate that unless you have a test proving that the plant is triploid, trifoliate or whorled phyllotaxy are much more likely scenarios, most especially if it produced offspring.
The burden of proof lies in your hands, as you have the plant and are making the far fetched claims with currently no evidence whatsoever because you can’t see any of those things through a picture
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Pot. Kettle.Black.
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Yep, it’s me…my fault…should never have come in here…you guys have the floor
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You can’t claim they’re multi chromosomal without a test. End of story.
You posted pictures of a plant with an atypical leaf development called whorled phylotaxy, and stated that it was triploid.
Could it be a triploid? Sure. But even in the thread you linked to, you call it a trifoliate plant, which is more accurate than claiming polyploidy.
Or do you have a lab test confirming this?
If not, you’re just using incorrect terminology, which is being corrected by the membership for clarity and consistency
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Nobody “has the floor” my guy, this is a discussion board… We’re discussing!
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