Was Freakshow stolen? The Harassment of Hi-Elevation Genetics

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I want to preface this post with the disclaimer that I am not trying to fuel, participate in, or endorse any sort of flame war going on in the community. Do not reach out to or harass anyone involved.

Recently I have discovered some strange “drama” within the cannabis mutant breeding space. I have always thought that Freakshow came from High Elevation genetics. Purchasing freakshow myself, I consider myself a fan. A man by the name OG Brandon has been claiming that he was the one who isolated the Fern leaf leaf morphology, releasing it in 2016.

He is the most active on facebook, where he frequently spouts off about how freakshow was stolen from him, claiming to have proof. There seem to be a lot of people in support of him on facebook, believing his stories. he speaks a lot about “quantum biology” and frankly talking points above my pay grade, so it’s trickier for me to discern fact from fiction.

This is his publicly available linked in profile.

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here is what he has had to say on reddit,

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A hops hybrid? Now, this stuff didn’t sound very believable at all to me. After sleuthing through all of his social medias, I could not find the hard proof he spoke of. He beckoned questioners to message him for the cold hard proof of any of the wild claims he has made. Fine, I’ll do it myself.
After shooting him a message, this is what he had to say to me before proceeding to block me.

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I tried contacting him through reddit, to no reply. It seems like he beckons users to message him with questions to look believable, but will not reply if that question is regarding evidence for his claims.
Welp, I suppose that answers that. His source is the crack pipe. If you felt your time wasted from reading all this, don’t worry I feel the same.

It turns out that “OG Brandon” has been a long time harasser of Shapeshifter and his family.

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What I originally started writing as an interesting tidbit quickly became much darker. It seems like there is an aggressive scam artist slowly amassing support, somehow while never providing the evidence needed. In the end though, is shouldn’t be surprised when he claims to be the original creator of watermelon kush, a hybridizer of cannabis + hops, and many other far fetched claims. Either way, the situation seems really nasty. This guy posts a LOT. Every day practically. He is always replying to freakshow grows on reddit, claiming he was the creator and how he’s been wronged.
What do you do when someone dedicated their life to slandering your work and amassing followers to do it better?

I guess the only real use of this post is as a warning for if you encounter OG Brandon in the wild. He is always posting about how he is licensing up and has a facility. Maybe one day in an insane twist of events, he’ll prove me wrong.

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man people will not give up on this fake hops cross breeding thing. In the mutant thread on overgrow there have been people growing hops for like 4 years and still expecting it to magically turn into cannabis. honestly it’s just sad.

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From what I’ve seen his claims are dubious at best. We have seen this whole Hops/Creeper stuff before when ABC first showed up and a 100 diff people came out of the woodwork claiming this, that and the other.

Some of them even went head to head with Hyb the only person really putting any real work into ABC over the years.

Even old FET fell foul of this FOMO and started claiming he had a creeper strain ect Which was a shame as FET had a great reputation that was diminished by a lot of his battles/attempts to belittle and or keep up with Hyb.

I suspect this is more of the same. I was around on HG420 (Dr Chronics forum) and ICmag at the time.

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I had a buddy long time ago swear they made a hops cross called cannabenaca or some shit.These claims have been going on since the 90s.Even if they made a cross how would the thc cross over to the hops?

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Exactly!

While they both divereged from a common ancestor I highly doubt enough of their modern Genomes contain enough in common to cross breed let alone to the extent of Hops producing THC.

I remember everyone speculating that ABC was a hops hybrid, But the leaf expression and other traits can be explained by Atavism bringing about the expression of ancestral traits once lost through evolutionary changes.

Sorry I’m rambling at you. :love_you_gesture:

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Funnily enough, Brandon has made claims to know the “creator” of ABC, Saying it was the work of an advanced horticulturalist instead of that naturally isolated trait nonsense.

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Interesting stuff here @Low.Poly

Got to this line and I predicted the ending
Dude is stirring drama and just wants to appear credible

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Totally cool man.I have always been crazy about ABC ever since i seen the Dooligah thread on here it grows all bud structure nice thick nuggets and little to no leaf to trim at all in these neat little ping pong buds and I remember when WallyDuck put out Ducksfoot.In the 90s i was obsessed with trying to make a Weed plant that didnt look like a weed plant here when it was illegal the ones that were wierd looking like Wallys were on the weak side for thc it needed some work done on it.I did some research back then and there were also some wierd phenos coming out of Hawaii that people would put up in trees that grew like a vine almost but you could see the buds and knew they were weed when they flowered.Freekshow is almost the same way looks like an Alien in veg then in flower you can see the Weed plant in it and know its weed.This is also how i got so good at LST training years ago.Everyone was looking for Christmas tree shapes to find the weed but i would bend them to the ground and break up the shape profile to match it to the Red brush line

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@PsillyRabbit wheres that shapeshifter write up?

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my male freakshow did smell surprisingly like chinook hops. :shrug:

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Freak show IPA

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This guy full of it just go to youtube. Humboldt seed has been talking about shapeshifter( freakshow) for years, sorry I cant think of his name. Hes a much older fella, and has gone over how he made it over many years. Numerous sativa genetics were involved. Shame on this guy with this mumbo jumbo. That man spent a long time making the freakshow. Ducksfoot, ABC, etc are completely diffrent cultivars from freakshow.

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He’s here doing laughing emojis as likes on posts :joy: @OGBrandon42 Why not engage instead of just being passive? Welcome to OG :rofl:

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Yooo let’s go true freakshow grow log 🫨 let’s go seed to flower, it’ll be sick.

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He has just registered and has a post pending. Do you guys want his responding comments here? With all of the ‘laugh’ emojis he’s spreading, little doubt that it will turn into a less than productive dialog.

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:grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin:

Love a productive conversation.

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I take it back.

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I thought ABC was a Australian wild cannabis. Wasn’t it found in western New South Wales, Australian Bastard Cannabis ? :thinking::thinking::thinking:

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There a few ive done 2 grows of it start to finish. Avg imo good high though, small plant not worth the space.

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