Ya if transmission via seed is possible (which I really doubt) it would have to be from spores on the seed. There’s no way pm has somehow entered the DNA of the seed.
Does not need to enter the DNA of the seed just get in the shell.
All pm needs to do is get thru the outer skin to get into the plant and it will and does.
Also we also came to the conclusion that dudding can get started here.
click BOOM just fucking shoot me, you ever read a real study on powdery mildew? Like seriously now, the future is here, is just not widely distributed yet? You need some links to a real study you can like read over the weekend curled up in front of the fire with a cup of cocoa and the cat? sigh don’t make me provide links to documentation that will never be read. Then I’ll really get depressed and go have to go down to the lab and rip a million dabs.
I don’t think that’s true at all and have never seen or read anything that would indicate it. How or why would pm ‘get into the shell’ of a developing seed, and how would it live in there to infect the offspring? It grows on the surface of the plant, not in it.
people who can never get rid of powdery mildew want you to believe that it’s impossible to get rid of.
claim:
powdery mildew will infect a seed.
rebuttal:
Please review the life cycle of powdery mildew in the illustration above.
claim:
powdery mildew is systemic.
rebuttal:
please review the life cycle of powdery mildew in the illustration above. <- response pattern forming?
ectoparasite: a parasite that lives outside the body of it’s host.
obligate parasite: if the parasite cannot obtain a host, it will die.
These are the words found when reading actual documentation on powdery mildew.
I’m glad I have started an interesting discussion. Thanks for everyone’s input
Yes. PM can be transmitted on the surface of seeds. You can do a bleach treatment to eliminate it.
Eagle 20 is myclobutanil, which turns into hydrogen cyanide when heated. I think this is most problematic for concentrates, but I would rather smoke PM over Eagle-20 personally. You can make extracts and edibles with PM bud with no known harm.
Potassium bicarbonate, potasium silicate, and biologicals (Bacilus subtilis, Stretomyces lydicus, Beauvais bassiana, ect) may help preventatively. Sulfur or Bordeaux mixture also work for vegging plants. High light is important at reducing PM severity.
The species of PM so far confirmed on Cannabis are Gloviomyces spadiceus and G. cichoracearum sensu lato. The species affecting hops, Podosphera macularis, is no longer believed to be the species affecting Cannabis. Usually Erysiphales are very host restricted but both of the species affecting Cannabis may have a broad host range. Gloviomyces spadiceus is known to affect mostly Asteraceae. G. cichoracearum may be a poorly defined group of cryptic species that is currently grouped together; it affects mostly Cucurbitaceae.
I had PM infected plants placed in my soon to be used indoor room up until a couple weeks ago. Should I do a sulfur burn? How is this done?
Cucumbers, right?
Yes, but you would need a sulfur burner, and they were a little hard to find last time I looked. Any questions, hollar.
One other note on PM, high levels of nitrogen make your plants more susceptible.
Thanks, I’ll look into it.
If everyone is so dead-set against myclobutanil because according to the hetti boiz it causes cyanide poisoning (lol ol’ vern is still kicking; if you had symptoms of cyanide poisoning you’d surely know it), there are other commercial fungicide options.
Heritage or Strobe 50 (expensive)
Clearys 3336F (cheap)
I would use micronized sulfur as a spray, not a burner. Inside sulfer will coat everything with a burner, including your lights.
Yes, Cucurbits are cucumbers and squash.
Synthetic pesticides are just not necessary or worth the potential health risks, imo. Niether are some organics (like rotenone). Vernal can do what he wants to his own flower, but I would never smoke it. That’s one good thing about the legal markets: pesticide compliance testing.
Do you really ask people “is this weed organic, and not just regular organic, but also no rotenone and a handful of other stuff” when someone passes you a joint?
I agree with GrowingHigher. You can do what you want with your weed, but I wouldn’t smoke it.
Your maturity level is unbelievable.
@farmerjoe420 is this what you were talking about when you said the same group of people attack Vern? Seems to me he is the one that is constantly provoking. Not the vibe OG needs imho.
Ah jeez guy lighten up a bit. No need to drag FJ into this.
It’s a powdery mildew thread. I offer some quick fixes, you guys say “vernal and pesticides bad” and the show goes on.
Naw,… don’t give me the lighten up crap. you’re constantly calling names and dissing organics. I could find 50 posts of yours at the drop of a hat saying as such.
I tagged FJ cause he was just saying how the same group of people ‘attack’ you. I assumed he was referencing myself and maybe a few others. What was failed to be mentioned was what you say to get those responses.
*drop of a grassroots flatbill hat
Imagine being sufficiently emotionally invested in a weed-plant-growing philosophy that “dissing” organics offends you. Or that an internet stranger jokingly referred to you as “hetti” lol jeez man I kinda thought we were having fun here. Guess not.
hey hey now, we can all just agree that if a banned substance were detected on my weed, I would be kicked out of the super best friends. That is not my goal. With the new contract I have, if I fuck around and violate protocol I might as well flush my life down the shit-hole too.