Once you see a worm sign here, you already late to the game. The little moth pillars I have here, only eat leaf in veg. They hatch straight outta the egg and dive right into the bud when it’s there. Once you see the sign, brown spots on your bud, they’ve already been getting fat and juicy eating the center of your bud. Keep spraying! lol
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Meant to ask you… did they reveg after the winter solstice? I wonder if I started them after, if the rain and dew would mold them in veg or if they would just pretty much stall in veg until spring? I could try them in the cheapy greenhouse. Usually I have to fight algae, but last time I tried autos they flowered and stuff but were tiny. It wouldn’t kill me to have a small regular plant that grew as big as a regular autoflower. It sounds like fall won’t work, but I may pull something off after the solstice. Hmm… I love experiments
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This sounds interesting cant wait to see wat the outcome is I love a good experiment too
Sorry about the skunk I’d cry too if all my hard work was just gone damn pillars
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5 am again. Wow it comes fast! Pulling down the rotted up skunk. Gonna be a rough day. Actually it could be really easy if most of the plant goes in the dumpster. We shall see. Easy trimming wise, rough on my soul
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I didn’t keep that particular experiment going (because it was for seeds 
) so can’t say what’ll happen. The day-length was still like 9hrs light/15dark so it didn’t/doesn’t make sense other than solstice-- indeed a week or 2 after was when I realized what I was seeing wasn’t just leafy bud growth.
The asterisk/caveat here is those were in a plastic hoop-house/greenhouse & got a bunch of our lovely urban light pollution. That refracts a bit & it’s possible it just wasnt dark enough.
Feel better: discovered GDP x Red Cherry Berry has caterpillar brown-ness 
1/2" from the very top.
And you have a 
roof! 
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Im growing my first auto right now that I started 60 days ago. Its just about done. Beautiful little plant. Wondering if I started one today and it would be done by December 1st if that will work. Im in coastal socal as well. Hopefully with cooler temps there would be less pillars too.
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I don’t know. I grew a grip of autos last year, but I thought it was closer to 70 or 80 days. Pretty sure autos won’t reveg as they aren’t on a light induced flowering schedule. It will be smaller than if you grew them between June and August though as those are the optimal So Cal months for autos. I think it will work. Do ITTTTT! lol Let me know what happens! The autos I started in Jan last year in my cheapy plastic greenhouse sucked though. Def don’t bother starting them from Dec - March. Wasn’t worth it. I called them mini me’s. I got like a joint off of them. Oh, almost forgot… I researched the hell out of So Cal and moths. The only month they don’t lay eggs here is in December. I literally spray my plants every week from veg all the way until harvest and some still get through. BT is our friend, The dew and fog in the mornings in the fall may mold your late auto though… just thought of that.
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Those fuckers! Yep. they have really good taste and love to dig in when they are really fat, stinky and juicy. Grrrrr… Sorry, Man! ((hugs))
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So the Skunk harvest… We got 3/4 of the plant down, washed and trimmed. Dad chopped them and piled them in the garage before the bud wash as I wanted as little mold going into the wash, trim or even dragged into the house as possible. So, I chopped out all the bud rot I could find along with at least 5 entire 2 foot colas. Once I did that all that, we threw the good stuff in peroxide water for a wash and neutralized anything else hanging out on the buds. Swapped out all of our tools and gloves as not to cross contaminate the clean bud with mold spores and went at it.
By the time we had everything washed and hanging by the fan, waiting to trim the sun had come up and we went to inspect what was left of the plant. One of the main branches had mold all over it about 10 inches or so. We cut it off, and saw it had spread another 6 inches on both sides inside the branch. Whew! That plant was literally a day or 2 from being completely systemic. Believe it or not, as much bud rot that I had chopped out of this plant, all of the bud that remained was PERFECT. Unlike the fat blue gelato and blue dream that we just had to hack into pieces to get rid of it. A lot can be said for sativa structured plants. They really hold up well to elements, of course mine was pretty extreme this time. Anyway, we pulled down probably 75% of the plant and got a 5 gallon bucket of fat trimmed buds, despite all that was destroyed. It’s not a lot considering it was a huge 7 ft plant, but it was more than I anticipated and there is a bit still out there to be harvested tomorrow. Better than nothing.
Dad and my man are taking down the rest of her tmw alone as I have a client for most of the day. Orange Goji will start coming down on Sat, then we will move on to the Cackleberry. If I have drying room and enough time, we’ll start on the UFS… The cheesus christ has some bud rot too, but i’s a monster plant, some is just gonna be lost until I have empty drying rack space and will be the last to come down.
Not to brag or anything, but I’m gonna… all 6 of the plants we have taken down so far had zero larf!!! My pruning and super cropping was a complete success in that regard and I do believe it made for fatter buds at the top of the plant with the same yield I would have had if I went xmas tree style. Kushman’s method for the win!
I’m really only bragging cuz if you get trim rage like me, trimming that larfy crap is a crazy maker.
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You should maybe trial a real thin net over the plants to help keep the moths/ butterflies from gettin in there first from the get go. … I have that hail netting I used at times this year wonder if that would work I’d think it go all the way to the ground With it
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Just an FYI… the one and only plant this year that held up to everything, no bugs and no mold is the good old UFS 18. Dang! There is something to be said for an old ass strain that hasn’t been messed with much since 1969. Before people started mixing 25 strains into one plant, weed actually grew like a weed and flowered like one too!
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how small are the netting holes?
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SmAll enough time keep butterflies out I’ll go snap a pic!
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It’s a cookie fiend! Damn kids!
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I don’t think the mini moths could get through that… The baby pillars could still crawl through but that would probably cut back on them considerably. What exactly is it called? I’ll totally try it next year.
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OOH! Forgot to tell you guys that I caught Dad this afternoon going from plant to plant without cleaning the pruners! Ahem!!! I really thought I had him trained by now. 
Ten lashes with a wet noodle!! Damn it Dad! I can’t even fire him. Who’s gonna trim and build cool trellises then?
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Hail netting it can be found on Amazon but got mine through a local nursery
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The baby pillars ( egg form )are placed there by the fliers right ? I’d take the most prone plant and maybe set up a sacrificial plant
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Yeah, I’m also gonna grow a boatload of dill next year. Supposedly they flock to it.
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