Just a warning to the community about 707 Seedbank. He gave me Hops Latent earlier this year, and some lovely russet mites. His genetics of hops killed my entire collection of genetics that took years to acquire.
The community deserves the warning. So there ya go.
Thanks for everthing shabud. Your hops killed some amazing fucking plants that I used to share with breeders and the community.
I’ve got some of his bunk ass seeds if anyone is stupid enough to grow them. free…
Why do you say shabud gave it to you
He had something on his IG about this earlier in the year. I can’t find it now.
Damn you are like the second person I’ve seen talking about Sha giving them a infection.
I thought you loved 707
Over on 707 seedbank
we started talking about it around June 7 and June 8.
unexplainably there is a GAP, where we were discussing it missing?
I remember us talking about it in a few post.
Now June 9- June 29 is BLANK?
Maybe MODS can go back and see erased post if any
this is all I found
I didn’t know you could get mites from seeds…
Ah, thought you ment you got it from his seeds, mis read
Thank you. I knew I remembered that he said that.
Soooo how did he give folks the virus. The only seeds he made with the infected cut were tossed. Or am I missing something. I see if you got the cut from him
Yes thats it @Jamescoldflame , @kaka_mrdookie saying he had got a infected cut from him. And the whole experience makes him toss the seeds too? imo
Oh… well I get it then. That Force you to trash everything. Maybe not the seed tho. Those seem safe
Thanks for the heads up, ive been eyeing a couple of his 707 Kush bulk crosses and looks like its a no go for me now.
Only $1 per seed 
dangit… first sorry about the hlvd from that clone
I have heard of seeds carrying the HLVD viroid, but I was under the impression that the percentage was astronomically low?
This concerns me a little. While not from 707, I’ve collected seeds from random vendors,(I have not collected any white label) folks like 808 as example.
Time will tell I suppose
I’ve read conflicting research about transmission through seeds. I think it will take more time to know conclusively. But my guess is that seeds are significantly safer, and especially seeds that have been aged for more than 6 months.
I think transmission to seed rates have more to do with which plant was infected and how badly. Lot harder to spread HLVD on pollen grains, compared to an infected female making seeds.
One aspect of infected seeds could also be surface contamination from contact with infected plant matter as its developing in the flower.
I have only seed one study on cannabis seed transmission, and they found moderate levels of transmission, with a bleach cleaning of the shell reducing transmission.
This study is about transmission from multiple plants, searching hemp seed will bring up the relevant parts. Have some questions about their experiment though. Personally think more cultivars should be used when studying transmission.
This study has some insights into why cannabis might be more susceptible to seed based transmission than other plants
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/07060661.2023.2279184#d1e701
Typing it is one thing but be careful saying “shabud gave me HLVD” too loud in public because people might start thinking you just went to the doctor.
I really want to see a study of the infected seedlings growth - can we eliminate the infected ones by culling all poor performers? I know other things I read showed vegging clones could be infected without noticeable affect, but seedlings are so fragile maybe it would be different. @ThePotanist any thoughts?
I would be happy to hear a virus does pass down to the seed, but I’ve heard for years that the seeds do pass it down.
