A Breeder Steve Thread

Here is some daylight data that would more likely explain the quicker flower times rather than temperature.

Columbia

Toronto

August and September combined average for daylight in Toronto, Canada is 1.5 hours longer than Bogota, Columbia

I’m not by any means trying to discredit Breeder Steve. His accomplishments, accolades, and following are beyond most to ever grace the grow.

But, both science, research, and my, in comparison, little experience (over a decade of both indoor, outdoor, personal and professional grow experience) says that temperature will not speed up your flower time. Definitely not by weeks. I know growers that grow, mid +30°C (+86°F) and their flower times compared to mine from the same clones but grown in 22°C (71.6°F) have the exact same flower times

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Why dont you actually listen to what he says, instead of basing your argument on what you heard from a friend?

He doesnt just link heat to faster maturation times. Why dont you listen to a longer explanation?

And having grown outside in canada for years, temps do affect finishing time for sure. Not really sure why people would claim otherwise. Idk about making an 8 weeker a 6 weeker, but temp has a huge affect on plants. This is both in terms of cold weather and warm weather

My plants did the best they ever did this summer because of our insane heat wave and warm nights.

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First thing I did when I moved indoors was find out how hot I could run them.

Back before High Times, plant science read like “A 3 degree temp increase while maintain dew point provided 15% increase in growth rates”

Now it’s “Fuck your God, All praise be unto Breeder Steve peace be upon him!”

Why the majority of Cannabis growers can’t observe growth of their Cannabis is beyond me.

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Exactly, Steve even references scientific data, papers and experiments at universities . But muh bro-science! I don’t know why this guy is so thinned skinned and went out his way to add his snark here when I thought we settled it and agreed to disagree. Guy needs a diaper change or something.

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Tangentially related, but I’d kill for a sweet skunk clone stateside.

Borders can be porous, but that one’s hard to get here.

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Is Island Sweet Skunk a breeder steve creation. I have read that it is white widow x sweet skunk but also read that it is sweet skunk x grapefruit. Either way, one of my favourite strains, and I had the pleasure of growing it last summer outdoors.


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to my knowledge, Island Sweet Skunk is a Federation/Next Generation Seed Company version of the sweet skunk clone. Breeder Steve is the guy who popularized the Sweet Skunk clone.

I’ve grown ISS and the derivative, Golden Goat and love them both immensely. Hazy bright lemon soda.

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I agree, I got some of it sent to me with the first seeds I ever received from someone on another board. Needless to say, I consistently will have some of that on hand, as it is such a bright wonderful plant.

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I’m gonna make a bunch of beans for everyone and send them to Doug to pass out for free using the Sweet Skunk. I’m gonna use a Sweet Blue male which is half and hit up the original Sweet Skunk clone(NL5XHAZE) so it will be 3/4 SS. Yeah guys the Island Sweet Skunk is a White Widow male hitting up the SS. I grew it out too years ago and it was good as it seems whatever hooks up with Sweet Skunk turns to gold. It’s gonna be towards the fall probably before they’re ready but it should be worth the wait especially for the price. Here’s the Sweet Skunk at 40 days from Flip so still over 7 weeks to go as she goes 12 weeks.

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Actually the only thing I agreed on was how ridiculous what you said he said was. I also love how you seem to enjoy name calling. You would fit right in over on troll it up. We don’t call people names here .

Now I am gonna go get my flowering tent up to 100 and cut 2 weeks off my flowering time…

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I have a Dolce Sativa mom I keep. It’s a cross made by Chimera - Breeder Steve’s Sweet Skunk x DJ Short’s Blueberry. I made seeds with a couple of phenos I had. I out crossed but am gonna select and hit back to the mom. Slow burner project though. Anyway, it does have unique hybrid vigour. It combines sweet candy floss/ boiled sweet taste with those 90s incense church notes. I’m not a big incense church note person myself. This combo is quite unusual compared with modern varieties as most don’t offer up the best of both worlds. Most will be one or the other ime. The nose from a jar is distinct and kicks up and is as loud as any other variety I have. It is very strong also with an up effect with out paranoia or edgy angst feeling. I have offered out varieties side by side to friends and slowly but surely they realise that it’s different to the others, as cro as the others - kind of like listening to an album and dismissing and then re-listening and realizing it’s brilliance. Best way I can put it. I can send a couple of 10 packs of the out crosses to legit OGers. The two sweet phenos I hit to a Black Triangle male and a Headbanger male. The incense. earthy pheno (high was slightly different on this one) I have just a few beans of and will keep for another grow.

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Btw, let’s keep it nice people. People genuinely getting upset by arguments that other people had and happened 20 odd years a go and announcing they’re off in a huff because another person said something they didn’t like. It’s just tedious shameful posting. Smoke a spliff and chill. Really fills up threads with nonsense and Breeder Steve is an interesting dude whether he irks you or not.

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Let’s not go in circles here… It’s been explained already, so let’s move on and without snarkiness. Thanks.

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So I am the one who has something said to them ? Guess I do need my diaper change.

Peace

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Lemonade is a popular drink and it still is! :+1:

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wow sounds amazing. Thanks for the clarification on the White Widow in the ISS. Will keep my eyes open for the cross. Exciting to see some crosses with the SS.

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What a beauty ! I’ve always hoped and dreamed I could find something close too the original Sweet Skunk cutting, sounds super exciting ! Peace and love all ! Cheers !

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This also sounds fantastic ! Would love to see these run ! Amazing genetics ! Awesome plan ! Peace

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Mestizo, awesome post man and right on with the description. I know that Chimera changed the name to Dolce but it is the same genetics as the Sweet Blue which was also called Sweetest Sativa too for a bit. It’s the same B130 stretch indica male hitting up the Sweet Skunk(NL5XHaze) clone. This is a copy/paste from Chimera on the Blueberry male used…

DJ Short Blueberry - This Blueberry is derived from original Blueberry, an unreleased line that also fathered DJ Short True Blueberry. Chimera was given access to the room in which DJ Short’s male selections were made. He chose several individuals personally, as well as the now deceased B130 male that DJ selected himself, and these selections are the pollen donors for the Joint Projects.
“There is variation in every pack. You WILL find the one that you are looking for in each pack as everyone has differing tastes, the one will be different for everyone. I love the mutant factor! Some of the best resin has come off of the mutants in these current releases. As far as using these strains in breeding projects-GO FOR IT. Every cross that I have seen turns out spectacular. In these new hybrids the blueberry gene is very dominant. A classic example is Chimera’s Fighting Buddha. This Burmese cross has heavy Blue line traits(foxtailing, purple stem…).” - Red from Legends Seeds
The pollen inputs from DJ were selected by me from a set of plants DJ chose from the selection run that pre-dated the TBB, F13, GK, etc releases. These inputs came as cuttings, not pollen.
The male known as B130 was but one of the plants who contributed pollen for the Chimera/DJ Short joint projects.
I did make an S1 generation from B130. None of the plant from this generation have been used for any seed release.
I hope that clarifies,
-Chimera

Also this is Chi on the Sweet Skunk. Awesome info right here….

Sweet Skunk - A Vancouver clone selected as superior by Breeder Steve from a large population. “A very small batch of these were made last winter and have barely seen the light of gardens except a small group of SS lovers. The Sweet skunk clone is in my opininion the finest and most unique sativa of the last decade, and the unbeatable #1 favorite in our group of cannabis cowboys.” -Cannabis Cowboy
“Sweetest Skunk…produces excellent herb very much like the SS clone.” -Chimera
Sweet Skunk was originally introduced by Spice of Life Seeds in 1994. The heritage was listed as Sensi Seed’s Big Skunk x Sweet Pink Grapefruit (a.k.a. Grapefruit) at the time, but Breeder Steve later speculated that the father was likely a NL x Haze male rather than a Big Skunk. This makes sense; the Southeast Asian “Hazey” bud structure is hard to ignore. Apparently, Steve had obtained two trays of clones for a grow, one labeled “Big Skunk” and the other “NL x Haze.” Upon planting and flowering the clones, one of the trays turned out to have a male that pollinated the crop, producing the seeds sold as Sweet Skunk. (Sometimes unplanned hybridization can yield outstanding individuals.) F1 seeds were planted, and an extreme sativa-leaning selection (SS #10) was chosen out of a roomful of indica-dominant girls. This clone is now known in BC as the original Sweet Skunk clone.

Originally posted by Chimera View Post

Sweet ‘Skunk’ is a misnomer; it’s not a skunk at all. there is nothing skunky about the Sweet Skunk, it’s a Haze variant.

-Chimera

Originally posted by Chimera View Post

I don’t believe the SS/grapefruit thing myself, the chain of custody on the SS #10 clone is suspect, despite the claims. I did some preliminary DNA work years ago, and believe them to not be directly related. More DNA work is being done on both plants, so the unbiased story will be told once and for all shortly.

ISS is Federation’s version of a hybrid using the SS #10 clone, reportedly. The progeny are nice, but not like the original clone. The speculations/reports that I have heard are that the ISS is a white widow x SS hybrid. All of our Sweet Skunk hybrid seeds, and the Lemon Cello S1, are derived purely from SS#10.

HTH,
-Chimera

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