What is tm7?
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Humic acid and seven micro-nutrients. Boron, copper… I can’t remember the rest. BioAg makes it, you can just Google it if you’re interested. I like it and try to remember to use it once a grow, every grow. Sometimes I forget, but not often. It’s good stuff for sure.
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Would it be fair organically to add Epson salts to my outdoor?
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I’m looking for more of a less concentrated fulvic acid
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Fair? Do you mean is epsom salt organic? Yeah, it is. Super-good source of Mg. I used to use it, but then I sent a sample of my soil in for an analysis and the lab said my soil was a little too high in sodium. I don’t know if that’s because of the epsom salt (I only used it once or twice a grow), but I quit using it anyway.
Also, I just kind of forgot about it until you mentioned it right now haha.
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Okay. I’m not sure I know what you mean by “less-concentrated” humic acid. You only need a quarter-teaspoon of TM7 per gallon of water, I dunno if that makes it a “concentrated” form of humic acid or not. I actually use it at half that rate, like half a teaspoon in four gallons of water.
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Yeah that’s not for me. I don’t think I need a whole lot being that DTE has some humic/fulvic in it. If you ever read my outdoor thread. I’m a 2 way guy when it comes to growing pot. It’s usually been chemical grows for me but these last two years iv gone full blown organic plants with some chemical grown ones. So I’m gonna need a natural form of humic acid. I just read that Epson salts add to the flavor and yield.
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epsom salts are magnesium sulfate. Shouldn’t be sodium in there unless… it’s contaminated.
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Eh, I dunno about that. It’s just a source of Ca and Mg. If that increases yields, then sure. But if you’re using a well-balanced soil mix, you should be fine either way.
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Haha, yeah, I know. I just figured the word “salt” was in there, so, you know… haha.
Honestly, I have no idea how or why the sodium levels in that soil mix were so high. I really don’t water with anything but, uh, water. Could it be from kelp, maybe? I do top dress with kelp sometimes. Or water with a kelp tea occasionally. But not so often that it would raise the sodium levels as high as they were. I don’t think, anyway.
In any event, I tossed that soil, dug a big hole in the ground, poured the soil in there and planted a peach tree. She’s doing great haha. Gonna be pulling a bunch of peaches off in a couple months.
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I agree. If you have access to different kinds of fresh compost and grain then you are already ahead of the game
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they claim, and I’ve never tried this…but it makes sense… you get a bunch of dehumidifier water/distilled with EC 0 and use that to leech the sodium out of the ground. The more water you pour in the less sodium should be left. No idea if it really works on the ground outside, but it would definitely work on house plants in a pot. The sodium will be absorbed by the EC 0 water and get carried out of the pot through the drainage. lol off topic but hey it’s good info.
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Fulvic acid and humic acid are basically the same thing. I think. I do know that the molecular structure or whatever of fulvic is smaller than humic, so if you’re gonna use it in a foliar, fulvic is “better” than humic. Or that’s what I’ve read anyway. But I’ve used humic acid (TM7) as a foliar with great results.
Since we’ve already established that I don’t know what the fuck I’m talking about, though, maybe take that with a grain of salt haha!
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I’m pretty sure there is no calcium in Epsom salts unless it’s added as an extra…
As joe said, I believe it is just magnesium sulfate, and it has be said that sulfur (sulfate) is what helps add to the flavor.
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Yeah, that’s what was suggested to me by the place that did the analysis to get rid of the sodium. Like flush it with three times the amount of water to soil. But since it was like 150 gallons of soil, I was just like,”Man, I’m not gonna waste that much water…” and just made a new batch of soil instead.
Again, you’re probably right. I have a really bad tendency to retain information only for as long as I need it. And since I settled in on my soil mix and watering “regimen” a long time ago, I’ve pretty much forgotten the purpose of/need for any of the things I do anymore, grow-wise. I just do it. Can’t remember why anymore haha.
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This is a recommended one I mentioned earlier, 90% Humic, 100% soluble (do not go for the 100% Humic one):
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Day 6 Veg:
Plants a looking pretty good, the tall male is just funny to me at this point:
Turns out I did a trick to show sex early by accident by having my lights go out one third of the day, the other day… apparently if anyone wants to try this, the better way is to put a bag over one branch, where the whole plant does not have to reveg which takes longer.
Besides that, sprayed down the mulch top layer of the SS as it was down to 144gm. Used less that 5%, just want to keep it moist on the top and let the others catch up/dry out a lil more.
Also increased the humidity some, it’s about 72.5% at 79F now…
Besides that, did some foliar spray on just the number 1s of each strain and since it’s during lights on, I focused on hitting just underneath each leaf so hopefully no drip will magnify the light and burn the plants.
Def not necessary, but just wanted to see if they respond at all.
The leaves are all pretty much flat as you could see, which I believe some say is ideal, but I’ve also heard some people think when they are praying a bit is the most ideal… wonder if I turn the lights up a lil if they’ll pray more?
Besides that, here’s a closeup of the Purslane and catnip:
And feeing like a proud father right now of the SS 
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If ya haven’t planted yet I’d just put in with the native soil mix it with some hole soil you should be good! Otherwise if. Plant just scratch it in !
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Will do. Man iv done everything you have been teaching me and damn I got some rich as soil this year. You can smell it…
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Smell’s like regular soil but really rich. You know what I mean by that?
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