Hah pineapple, that’s great!
That’s interesting about the 3 month mark, does that apply to both photos and autos?
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I would assume both; but I’m guessing there’s exceptions and my experience is only scholarly really. But I left seedling under 12/12 light for 2 days before I noticed and fixed it, and they are just fine a few weeks later.
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Well, I could put it to the test some time but I thought I have seen YouTube videos where they basically skip veg or do a one or two week veg (I think Mr. Grow It showed it).
What did you have to do on a 4 month plant? Cull it?
I over watered them ( 4 of them!) to death, they did the culling for me.
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sorry to hear that, glad you have a good seed supply/source, I have a decent amount myself now but never fun to lose that time out into… prob matters less the more plants you have, well that’s how I would feel unless there was some really unique special characteristics to it… but if you were that big and had a unicorn that got messed up, I guess you could tissue culture it possibly?
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Living soil really doesn’t need much water, especially if you use a lot of wormcastings and seaweed.
20 days since I’ve watered mine, and there’s mushrooms sprouting from the bottom.
Stop underestimating the power of your soil and have some faith in that which created us, it’s far more intelligent than any of us can even dream of.
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Yeah, it’ll recover. Weed is a hardy, resilient plant. It can take pretty much any abuse you give it and recover fine.
I don’t know what that is haha. It looks more like a male than a female. One day of short light shouldn’t have thrown it into flower mode, though, unless it’s just a super-sensitive plant. I dunno. Weird haha. Never seen anything like that.
I also wouldn’t judge anything based on the number of blades each set of leaves have. I’ve had nine-fingered blades by the fifth node and five-fingered blades at the tenth node. And some OG’s have three-blades for the entirety of their lives.
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It’s so important to remember that, these are rules of thumb. Listen to the plant. I care more about established roots and a good canopy than the number of leaves.
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I only mentioned/noticed the leaves cause you talked about them earlier for figuring out when to count veg lol I don’t know too much about fingers haha
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Are you saying based on those weights you think they have too much water?
I got you going 20 days and @minitiger suggesting every other day… sounds like you guys def prob water different %s each time… I think I’ve heard they like less more often but I could be wrong.
I did actually find a good article on it, let me see if I can scrounge it up…
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I’m saying LITFA 
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Water every other day. No offense, @Rogue but watering once every twenty days is fucking insane.
The main thing is, you wanna keep the moisture level in your soil consistent. Doing that whole soak/dry thing might work for salt-based grows, but with organic growing, you do not want to let the soil dry out.
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Growing weed is really, really easy. I didn’t even realize how easy it was until I started a little herb garden a few months ago (actual herbs, not weed; rosemary, thyme, basil etc etc). Those things grow super-slow and much differently than cannabis. I’ve got them in the same soil mix I grow my weed in, but they’re just different.
Anyway, my point is, don’t stress. Don’t think about this too much. I think you know what you’re doing, but you’re thinking about it too much. I water my plants with ten percent of the volume of soil they’re in. So, like, in my seven gallon airpots, I water with around .7 gallons of water, give or take. But mostly I go by feel. In those little starter-type pots your plants are on now, just do the same. Pick up the pots. Do they feel light? Then water them with a little bit of, uh, water. If they don’t feel like they need water, don’t water them. You’ll be able to tell.
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Yeah, that’s approx what I was doing, shooting for between 5-10%… it’s like 20-40ml lol
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Well, they’re in those little pots, so 20-40 ml sounds about right. No reason to laugh at the amount of water they need haha. When I’m in my starter pots, I water with a quarter cup or maybe a half-cup, depending on how far along they are.
I start my seeds in those little three inch pots, looks like that’s what you’re doing, too. Those are great for starts, just because you can keep them moist without overwatering. I’ll actually just spray the top of the soil/mulch instead of watering sometimes, just because there might be enough water at the bottom for the roots to seek out, but the top maybe might start drying out. Look at the bottom of the pots, at those holes. When you see some roots starting to poke out, transplant.
Anyway, don’t worry about impressing us haha. Nobody here is laughing at you (and if they are, they’re dicks). My plants always look a little gnarly by the end of flower (feel free to check out my grows here if you think I’m being dishonest haha), they’ve always got a few nasty-looking, crispy leaves by the time I chop. That’s just senescence doing it’s thing… I don’t care what anybody thinks, my weed always turns out reeeeeallll fucking good, even though my plants don’t look like High Times centerfold-type shit on chop day. I mean, the flowers do, they’re always super-crystal-y trichome-laden shit, but the leaves look rough. Not a big deal.
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Yeah for sure… I try to stay humble best I can and try to be the first to say I messed up… will check them out for sure…
Do you give calcium during flower at all?
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Nooooooo. Never. Why would I do that? Everything your plant needs is in that soil mix. You’re good.
The only thing I add to my water sometimes is aloe and coconut. And that’s only a couple times a grow. If that. Sometimes I won’t water with that at all, for the entire grow. Sometimes I water with a compost tea, too, but not always. Not every grow. Honestly, on the rare occasions that I add anything to my water, it’s just because I’m bored and I have it. And I’ll be like,”Oh yeah! I have that aloe in the freezer! I should water with some of that…” haha. I don’t think it’s necessary.
This is the beauty of organic growing. Everything a plant needs is in that soil mix. Keep your soil happy and your plants will thrive. And you’ll be stoned as fuck haha.
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Was just trying to think of why you might get a lil “extra” senescence as you mentioned and I have read how much they demand cal… for instance in KNF I believe they give water soluble calcium during flower.
I think water only soils can be nice, but it’s really hard to imagine them truly lasting the whole time (it’s not an infinite supply,), even on Jeremy’s latest BAS grow series he is amending during it, I think he even did it with his 3.0 soil which is their closest thing to a water only if I’m not mistaken…
I think you said it best, they are resilient weeds and can grow in many circumstances… guess this is more so about shooting for optimal-ish looking/growing outcomes…
I grew three plants my first time outdoors with fox farms and bottled nutes, had no idea what I was doing, a ton of yellow/brown leaves at the end and my buddies loved the weed 
Would love to get to a top shelf level with some seriously loud terpenes 
Not really trying to get in an argument about it, was just curious.
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Oh yeah, dude, I don’t think you’re trying to argue. We’re just talking. It’s always good to share info, as much as we can. Speculation, theories, ideas… We should all be talking about the things we’re thinking about. That’s what overgrow is for. If somebody wants to get all internet-y and try to start some shit, they can fuck off haha.
You’re definitely right about the calcium thing, it is for sure an important element, but what are you suggesting, exactly? To water with something like CalMg+? Fuck that shit. If anything, if you feel like your plants could use some extra Ca, I’d water with a little kelp meal tea or some molasses before I used anything like CalMg. If I remember correctly, Botanicare was bought out by Monsanto a few years back. And that’s all I need to know.
Anyway,
That dude’s trying to sell stuff. I’m not saying he doesn’t know anything or he’s not worth listening to, but ultimately, he’s trying to make money. If you really feel the need, you can always top dress with a high Ca amendment before you flip. Sometimes I do that, sometimes I don’t. For the current grow, I top dressed with gypsum, neem, fish bone and kelp, but I did that mostly because I’m using a new batch of soil. And also because Jeremy suggested that hahahaha!!!
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Yeah for sure he is, but his plants are walking the walk for now…
Have you looked into KNF much at all? This is what I want to transition to eventually but I got to go thro my stuff i purchased prior I feel like lol
One recipe for cal is to take oyster shell flour with brown rice vinegar, check it out
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