I’ve looked into that. I’ve looked into a lot of stuff and decided, you know, ultimately I’m trying to grow as simple as I can. That KNF stuff seems like a hassle to me. More work than I wanna do. Honestly, I just mix up some of Coot’s mix (which is buildasoil’s mix) and call it a day. And I use that soil over and over and over again. Like I said, I‘ll water with some coconut and aloe here and there or a compost tea or whatever, but I don’t have a “regimen” or anything. There’s no need for it. Everything’s in the soil.
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I appreciate that, it’s def nice to keep it simple for sure.
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20 days after last watering I stick my finger in there and it’s still soaking wet. I know it’s hard to believe but it’s not drying out at all. Seaweed and mycelium hold moisture way better then perlite.
Perlite is dead, and it’s not a nutrient, it’s a waste of space that can be exchanged for organic matter. There’s mushrooms pinning on the underside of one of my pots, that’s how little they care about getting watered.
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Yeah I think different soil compositions will hold water differently that’s for sure… you might want to look into pumice or even rice hulls if you want a lil bit more aeration…
I think pumice or even straight lava rock also have another function in that they are an ideal place for microbes with all their porosity and crevices.
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It seems to me that the ideal place for microbes is in more microbes. 
The less I have to water the better.
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Yeah, I don’t use perlite, I use pumice. Are you growing in airpots or plastic containers? If they’re plastic containers, that might be the reason why you have to water so infrequently.
Still, like I said, going twenty days without watering is fucking insane haha! I commend you, that takes some balls for sure haha.
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I might have a serious problem guys that’s only gonna get worse as time goes on, they’re starting to smell and I can’t help myself from opening the box to sniff them, I feel like a creep now hehehe 
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What? What box? What’re you talking about?
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I’m growing in both growbags and plastic containers, no difference.
It’s solely the soil. It’s so much fun, peace of mind for sure.
That’s the thing with permaculture, it can withstand floods as well as draught.
I’m here to find out if it also works on a small scale indoor. So far it does.
To push it to the extremes of draught I’m not gonna water for the entire growcycle.
I just started a grow journal, if anyone wants to follow along it’s called:
“Rogue Grows The Permaculture Way”
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My “tent” is a box I made you can see in the first post.
@Rogue I imagine your environment and container size has a lil to do with it as well, if you were running high temps and low humidity, I wonder if it would last that long?
What temps/rh do you run?
I’ll check out your thread for sure 
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I don’t have any metering equipment, I don’t even own a thermometer of any kind. 
Container size is nothing special: 10 L.
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Oh yeah you mentioned this, I forgot…
You indoor or outdoor?
Nevermind, I’ll check out your thread lol
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Day 5 of veg (decided those five fingers may have come around day 10 from emergence):
Measured all of them again on the scale just to get an idea of how much water is being drank and/or evaporated from the soil in approx one day, but also and even more so, just to see where they’re at:
UK: 198.8gm - 183.6gm = 15.2gm
UK2: 185.5gm - 170.8gm = 14.7gm
BB: 188.4gm - 171.2gm = 17.2gm
BB2: 178.2gm - 162gm = 16.2gm
SS: 172.9gm - 153.6gm = 19.3gm
SS2: 180.1gm - 166.7gm = 13.4gm
So as expected, the two Super Skunks are doing what they should being the best and worst of the group drinking the most and least respectively.
I’m on the fence about giving the SS maybe a 5%(of container volume; approx 20ml) watering tmr as it is starting to approach that baseline measurement, which still did have a lil bit of moisture in it but not enough to cause a drip if you squeezed it with your hand.
As far as growth, they are all showing that lil bit between the branch and main trunk, I forget what it’s called if anyone knows?:
And just for bonus fun, the catnip and now some Purslane have popped which I’m actually pretty excited about:
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If you want to mix in some knf, it’s all good. Just like some people said, it makes it more complex. I like to add a little ffj a couple times during flowering, it seems to help bring out the terps. Some faa could also be helpful for growth rates. I also like to give a sst when I transition to flower. Knf seems to be more about small amounts, and microbial life. It does work hand it hand with living soil.
Its definitely not a must, but it’s something to play around with. I have some of the cal mag, but I never really use it. I have plenty of calcium in a mix similar to yours.
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You have some of the cal mag? Like knf cal mag? Doesn’t it only really do Cal and Cal phos?
I def will be wanting to make that fermented fruit juice for flower and some extra terps… knf people have some of the highest terps I’ve heard people getting which is partly why it appeals to me…
I kind of want to try a put blueberry fermented fruit juice and give it to the blueberry strains, not sure if it works that way, but would be really cool if it did effect them like that.
So I know some people go with soy aminos and then they will also apply faa everyone and then, do you happen to know why or what that faa has that the soy aminos dont?
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I was listening to a podcast awhile from a guy that is really big on humic acid. He mostly uses the soy version, and the fish version every once in awhile. I’ve been wanting to get some of the soy amino acids. Did you find some good ones?
His biggest thing was water water soluble, humic acid powder. It helps correct so many issues, and that is why he likes it. He uses it every watering.
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I think I know the guy you are talking about because I may have taken a class from him IG KNF_Gardener has some of the nicest looking plants…
I do have a good source for you that I actually learned from his class:
Down to Earth Soluble Agmino Powder 14-0-0, 1 lb https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00VJN8QLC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_ZPMMPZCJMBZF40PYQT86
You could source it from somewhere else besides Amazon I’m sure, could very well have that locally somewhere.
Also have a good source for Humic if you want that as well.
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I’d be careful with that humic/fulvic acid. I’d also be super-leery of anybody who says they use it every watering. I did that watering schedule on the no till thread at grasscity a couple years ago, which involves fulvic acid every twelve days and I fried the shit out of my plants. Haven’t used it since.
Although I do have like a gallon of it in the grow room closet… haha.
I find that the best thing to kind of get my plants kicked into gear is a compost tea early in veg.
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I’ll have to go back a and find that video. He said it makes a huge difference where it is sourced from, and the extraction method used. It needs to be under like 63%, powdered, and 100 water soluble. He says to make sure it’s from Canada.
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Yeah, I’ve heard the same thing. I used BioAg’s fulvic. That’s the brand that Coot’s always talked up.
And I forgot, I do actually use BioAg’s TM7 once a grow. That’s humic with added micro-nutes. But I only use it once, somewhere between day 30-45 in veg. Usually after I’ve transplanted from the starter containers into their half-gallon veg containers. I’m not sure I’d use it more than once a grow, though. Humic/fulvic acids are really, really powerful.
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