Hmmmm. Idk… sounds scary
I’m sticking w the cannatrol lol
Alright! It’s been like 3 weeks.
Let the REVOLUTION continue.
And the verdict is:
Meh.
Not terrible. Just not great. If someone gave it to me I’d be happy but since I grew it and it’s subject to my micromanaging megalomaniac ways I call it a sub par fail.
It’s ok though. I’m on a hash making kick and I’ve got a few aging jars I may want to clear out so if/when that happens I’ll just add the MMH to the mix.
Or I’ll just give it to Mrs Foreigner. She’s way less picky than I am.
REVOLUTION over. Lesson: dry your weed properly.
yeah I checked it out, the paper on carbs and aroma in tobacco is interesting, the one on moisture and expansion in wood not so much You might find the paper I linked on asparagine synthesis relevant.
Not if they’re air curing
Unless they’re making cob or hash, or rosin…
There are a lot more charts that you can find if you look for commercial tobacco dying temperature but they use .png picture files and they don’t open in the forum software.
These numbers are so out of line with cannabis curing that you might as well be curing a carrot in a dehydrator.
Exactly…
Tobacco uses the leaves, cannabis the flower I think this is one big differences between the two. More chlorophyll in the leaves, perhaps? Tobacco production has always been dominated by industry, mass scale of production drives technique more than quality (except w expensive cigars) Cannabis drying is all about preservation of the terpenes in my book, but then again I prefer my weed before it gets that old orange glow to it, lol. Cheers to the counter-insurgency attempt as well as the willingness to stick it out and report honestly about it.
Just an experience I had. I ran out of space to hang my plants. I ended up hanging a handful in the flower room off to the side while still flowering. They completely bleached out to gold color. The smell was still good, but the green color was gone. Nobody wanted it! No chlorophyll left at all.
I do believe this is the same method that was used in Mexico. They would cut large amounts and leave them in the sun. The piles would be turned periodically and we got Acapulco gold weed
that’s flue curing, not air curing Did you read my post? The low 100’s is not out of place for cob curing either
for sure, I believe it. sun curing is a classic among hash manufacturers and oriental tobacco growers, too. Frenchy suspected it was the sun drying that contributed to the development of the terpene hashinene in old world hashes
I read your post, did you read the papers I posted on tobacco curing in the early part of the thread? I specified commercial curing, most tobacco sold is commercial and the research is mainly done related to commercial. It is a different product that weed. When I did a dive into curing I looked at tobacco curing first and found it is a different kettle of fish with the chemical process to cure it being different. But if you find papers on cannabis curing I will gladly read them.
Came across another paper I do not have bookmarked but I might have it from somewhere else. From the paper.
There were several aims for the experiments reported here. We wanted to develop a rapid, reliable and inexpensive method to quantify the important bioactive compounds in medical marijuana, cannabinoids and terpenoids. We wanted to demonstrate the utility of the method using commercial material, available as medical marijuana in New Mexico. These studies were also designed to determine the consistency of total and relative cannabinoid and terpenoid accumulation within a given accession, and to see if leaf levels of cannabinoids could be used to predict eventual floral levels.
Anybody want to get skunky?
Dabbing?
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsomega.7b01130
Dry at 60% RH.
See what happens when I fall down the rabbit hole again?
Evaluation of Potential Hazards during
Harvesting and Processing Cannabis at an
Outdoor Organic Farm
Kind of cool.
Effects of steam sterilization on reduction of fungal colony forming units, cannabinoids and terpene levels in medical cannabis inflorescences
Fungal Pathogens Affecting the Production and
Quality of Medical Cannabis in Israel
Taming THC: potential cannabis synergy and phytocannabinoid-terpenoid entourage effects
https://bpspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1476-5381.2011.01238.x
Evaluation of thermo-chemical conversion
temperatures of cannabinoid acids in hemp
(Cannabis sativa L.) biomass by pressurized
liquid extraction
No more than three posts in a row. Oh well, this was worth its own post so it is easier to find but what can you do?
I noticed the paper on decarbing was from a journal, Journal of Cannabis
Research. Oh no, more hours of my life going down the tubes.
https://jcannabisresearch.biomedcentral.com/
Looking at one paper they have journal publication of cannabis papers, this should help with searches, also searching for this post. I am much better remembering pictures than words. Darn, another png file. OK, I can fix this.
Bunny’s in the rabbit hole, an I like it:)
You may get to an acceptable level of dryness like that but curing stops once bud is dry and re-hydrating just makes it moister.
I’ve been slo-drying my buds for years taking up to a month to get them dry enough to put into jars for burping and they are still moist enough to form clumps when first put into jars. All the green is gone as the chlorophyll has had time to break down and the starches are also converted to sugars. These biological processes stop once the plant material dries and doesn’t restart when re-hydrated.
The pot will age after a quick dry but won’t be as smooth or smell as good. My bud goes a light brown colour after it cures with no green at all. The buzz is basically the same but the aesthetics are nicer. Harshness is gone and it tastes a lot better. Something I experimented with over 10 years ago and now do when I want smoking bud but most of my bud goes to edibles so I’m freezing most of it fresh off the plants to deal with later.
From this.
To this in about 6 weeks. 4 weeks burping for a total of about 8 weeks before dry enough for smoking.
It’s fussy and you really have to be on top of it so you don’t get mold but worth the wait. LPs do dry in large trays and any of the ‘legal’ strains I’ve sampled from friends is lacking a good cure.
My climate oscillates in and out of prime curing conditions. Winter typically means too dry, so just add humidifier, easy solution. Summer means too hot and too humid at times or too hot and too dry; which can toast a dry/cure in a day, trust me, I know. Yes you can rehydrate, but it will never be the same as if you got the slow cool dry.
When I can hit that 60/60 sweet spot for a few days at least or up to a couple weeks at best, it’s definitely noticeably better than any fast dried bud I’ve ever smoked.
Taste is not really a concern to Tobacco growers.
Quick initial dry is typically to keep molds ect at bay.
Taste is not a concern for tobacco growers? If you say so.
Well I am not a tobacco smoker, so maybe I should have reserved judgment here…
I did not think of cigars at the moment I was typing…
Less of a concern maybe…LOL
I guess the main point was they may dry tobacco fast to lessen the chance of mold ect.
That may by itself reduce taste, in cannabis anyway.