Addicted to HAZE - Haze only thread (Part 1)

A survey of the THC, CBN and CBD content of hemp from all parts of Japan was reported by Dr. Keizo Watanabe. Marihuana from Tochigi and Hokkaido regions contained a 3.9 per cent and 3.4 per cent THC, respectively.

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You forgot the part about them being comparable to marijuana available in Jamaica and Mexico in the 1970s Mexcurandero.

“A survey of the THC, CBN and CBD content of hemp from all parts of Japan was reported by Dr. Keizo Watanabe. Marihuana from Tochigi and Hokkaido regions contained a 3.9 per cent and 3.4 per cent THC, respectively.(UNDCP 73/3)

These potency figures are comparable to marijuana available in Jamaica and Mexico in the 1970s.

Before worldwide laws against cannabis were introduced over the last few decades, there was no real incentive to breed plants specifically for low THC yield.

There is no known genetic link between qualities desirable in fibre plants and low THC-yield. In fact, since the resin acts as a natural repellant against insects and other pests it is likely that more resinous plants are more robust. Thus plants could be usable both as industrial crops grown for fibre and seed and for medical and recreational purposes.

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In 1956 a study for the Japanese government analyzed domestic cannabis plants. It found THC but no CBD… The study concluded that the tested plants were closer to South-East Asian drug hemp than to northern fibre hemp:

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All the Haze we grow be it OHaze / Nevils Haze/ Posi Haze / Piff or any other Haze hybrid came from Holland people forget that and Holland was were the real work on Haze happened. It is also were the seed was spread far and wide from.

Haze originated in California but how many people bought Haze in California to smoke ?

It started as a Hybrid and will always be a Hybrid.

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Analysis in the book from Mel Frank was around 8% THC for Jamaican and Colombian and around 11% THC for some African varieties.

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Do you think a good tropical Colombian or Thai would run 10-12%? Don’t seem to think the amount of THC is what we are talking about but more the entourage effect from the tropical types being more cerebral than doused with diesel Paki/Afghani hash types.

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Sounds like it originated in Cali, got worked and became popular due to Holland.

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Thanks thought it would not have to be that high to get a good experience. What is the thing that increases duration and the cerebral high? Don’t get me wrong I like the AP’s when wanting to crash on the couch and go to sleep.

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I recently read a study done by a university in Colombia that analyzed samples of 13 plants from 4 regions of Colombia, collected in the growing area.

The first picture is the llanos orientales region, then Cauca, Santa Marta and the eje cafetero, which would be Antioquia. The researchers highlight that it is very likely that the Llanos and the Cauca are hybridized. Also curious is the level of cbn and almost 0 cbd in the samples from the eje cafetero.

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assuming the “haze brothers” grew their weed to sell ,
im sure plenty smoked it and it was this haze ,
and in this place that it first gained popularity ,
otherwise it wouldnt have ever made the journey to holland in the first place …

Santa Cruz was where the real work on “haze” was done ,
most of the work in holland was making hybrids from it ,
not in fact working the variety itself …

just because we were not there , doesnt mean it didnt happen ,
there is enough evidence suggesting haze was quite popular in the circles it was found in ,
sam said it was quite expensive if i recall , fetching more than anything else at the time ,
how much “haze” got sold in holland ?
lots of hybrids of it sure , but not a lot of “haze” …

yes haze began as a hybrid ,
but after that it became an inbred line ,
a line of its own , its a breed of its own that began as a hybrid …
according to the chap that first shared it in europe ,
it had already been quite inbred by then …

i probably dont need to go into what a hybrid is ,
but if one considers this , haze is not a hybrid , its an inbred line …

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About the only thing the Dutch did to Haze ( & the same with any other tropical sativa ) was introduce either indica & / or skunk genetics . Mainly to increase yields & to reduce flowering time . Yes Haze is / was a hybrid originally , but a pure sativa hybrid . Most of us old 60’s kids / VN vets don’t care for the Dutch Hazes , just like we hate tobacco in a joint . Aint nothin’ like the real thing baby…

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those hills from sc to pacifica were full of vets who developed the original smuggling routes for cocaine after they came back from the war. those men are the fathers of my friends. and they liked uppers lol wether they were green white or whatever. paranoia was a feature not a bug. when you see tom hill on his gear its hard not to think back to those guys rolling up a pinner and acting like they were in Reefer Madness.

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Like a Cajun when a fiddle starts playin’…caint sit still no

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No Wally the work was not done in California it was done in Holland.

Pure Haze and Haze hybrid Seed was produced in Holland and distributed from there not from California.

Name any one that grows Haze seed made from seed that originated in California that never left California you cant.

Sam took the Haze to Holland Sold some to Nevil and Sam grew what was left made fresh seed and all the Haze sitting in his Freezer right now were all made in Holland.

The Haze brothers were not breeders.

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Original Haze was sold threw the - Flying Dutchman.

Haze 19 or Tom Hills Haze was sold threw - Positronics

Nevils Haze was sold threw GHS on consignment then threw Mr Nice.

All are or were Dutch Company’s.

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name a breeder? they were all getting their seed from netherlands anyway. thats like saying that NL1 (or whatever youre calling steve murphy) was bred in holland.

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Yes they were getting the seed from Holland that was my point.

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seed goes from cali to holland back to cali and somehow it originated in holland? im confused, unless youre saying that they were the ones who commercialized it in seed form.

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Haze originated in California not Holland no ones disputing that but the real breeding and work and the sale of seed that spread Haze that placed the seed in peoples hands to grow or breed with was done in Holland.

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how much of the great haze argument is down to the semantics of haze being a specific singular strain or a classification of strains lol. do we have sativa/indica and haze? or is haze a subset like “cookies” strains are now? or is like skunk where we just blindly throw the name on anything that smells a certain way.
not saying any is or isnt right. (rereading that its definitely not the first one)

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