Indeed. Credibility comes apart when we insist we know it all. Even the “original Breeders and collectors and resellers” (all different) only knew through the very tight lense of their own experiences. What each smoker experienced as haze was different then as well. It wasn’t warehouses of commercial light dep from clone. Today many think about breeding then as we do now
It wasn’t. Some of the first collections/recombinations of equatorials were from surfers smuggling in late fifties and early sixties primary from central america (excluding immigrants from Asia and Africa who we know brought collections much earlier)
Those channels from central to south developed in multiple different channels generally resulting equatorial hybrids with amplifies qualities. Then there is the Vietnam war with mass migrations of civilians through North and South Vietnam, Laos, Thailand and Cambodia, 500k soldiers during the hippy travel Renaissance through India.
The recombinations of those accessions would have been the most significant of all in early seventies.
What is most important to remember about the complete exploding global salad that made haze is that it takes one person, dropping 1 male seed within a mile to change everything. Tracking traits are the best we can do.
Up until legalization most weed didn’t have a name and those that did would intentionally change the name. Particularly with 5haze. There is barely any similarities between what was in those packs and any 5haze after. Those who were there basically agree that if you didn’t have the 5haze from the first pack, you never had it at all
Those who think it was about the NL5 in there are speaking from the experience of only ever having everything after that period. You have mentioned the NL as being the show in 5haze. Because you claim this I know with absolute certainty that you never had the original 5haze and are looking through a whole different lense.
These makes off the more current A5, A5t C5 I didn’t find interesting, I don’t think Nevil did either. Was it 2 in 122 or something like that?
I ran the CBH cut some years back That one didn’t last longer than popping off a few makes.
To much humilene, not enough Ocimene, stoney, short production haze. What some would associate with Colombian effect. It has a mutation and a unique trident bouquet. Bx the mutation resulted in helical golden ratio flowering pattern resulting in 3.5 oz flowers in 3 gallon per sqft of canopy.
It can be considered a decent breeding haze by locking on to traits within the common A5t genetics bringing them forward in Bandaid where other crosses with A5 fall flat more often.
As a result Bandaid is widely accepted as the best in recent haze. I agree with this for the most part, but I have yet to have a bandaid that holds a candle to the original 5haze in effect or profile. So far. Dropped $1500 to get it early on. Made a few crosses and just didn’t find it worthy of holding a space after 2 rounds and culled it
Equatorial do seem to have a much higher capitate stalkless and sessile. Factories for CBC and CBG associated with that MDMA energy no ceiling.
Everyone has different selection criteria and preferences, but 2 stoney and dry old camel ding incense rather than dank frankincense and the effect is not my jamb. Great breeder potential and because it is as old or older than any A5 C5 more likely to lock on to the older haze traits that were in the original 5haze
I know I probably pissed off some of my EC piff enthusiasts, but CBH is a useful breeder at best in my opinion. Many love it and that’s what matters
. You may have noticed it earlier that I mentioned finding it in the Acapulco Gold by mountain organics. Before that I said I hadn’t found it, but then recalled that run. It was all documented on BB, but sometimes I forget. Anyway, that is besides the point
