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Do you have receptacles on the outside of the house?

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If you want to go that route Id use 12 ga wire. 10 is gonna be harder to pull the distance.

Also, 12/2 wire. 12/2 has a black a white and a ground

12/3 has a black a white plus an unnecessary red wire and a ground.

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Definitely. Quite a few of them. That makes sense now. Haha

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Indicana is right. 12/2 is your standard house wire. I always forget that. Two power conductors one earth ground.

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Good stuff! It’s 12/2 that runs the 20 amp upstairs for the washer currently, so makes sense.

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It’s considered a dedicated circuit to just the washer and their motors typically don’t pull more than 15A. Mine is the same way.

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12/3 is used in situations where you need 2 hot wires, a neutral and a ground. Very specific use cases for that usually involving a switch at the end of a circuit not at the beginning of one (I think lol).

Edit: another fun fact is that if electricians are lazy and don’t want to use or don’t have 12/3 wire they will just use the neutral white wire as the 2nd hot lead. The key indicator for this is if a piece of black electrical tape is wrapped around it. Thats the marking that the white wire is hot. So if you ever see a white neutral wire with a black piece of tape on it be careful!!

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It throws me off because when I spec industrial control cable for work, it’s always the wire size followed by the number of conductors. For example, SO 10/4 is 10 gauge, 4 conductor cable.

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This is great. I swear to God, OG can get you sorted out no matter your issue. @The_Lazy_Hippie I have a bunch of 12/3 snaked in my ceilings upstairs. I was running 2 hots to my ceiling fans so I could control the fan from the lights individually with two switches on the walls.

Wrong. They don’t even make ceiling fans like that any more. They’re all one hot in and the whole damn thing is controlled by a remote.

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I am dyslexic so it really fucks me up that they don’t include the ground wire when they talk about the number of wires in the damn cable lol.

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Anyone know the difference between these two breakers? I was sent the wrong one, but I’m not sure what’s different about them. I’m guessing I need to return this one and get the correct one, no? Top one is the blown one. Thanks for any help!

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GF and GFCI are the same thing by different names.
CAF breaker is an enhanced arc protection over AFCI.

They sent you a better breaker. If it fits it ships.

Edit. They may not make the afci breaker anymore and replaced it with this better one.

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Humidity is starting to stay lower at all times, so most plants are finishing up, but there are two (definitely remember two) or three that need longer than the others. Those will be getting chopped early. Hate to chop plants early, but I don’t want to let the others risk rot. May have to get a little drying tent eventually for this hunt with stuff finishing at wildly different times.

Edit: One of these is a crazy quick plant. I don’t know how it would smoke so early, but it would certainly sell off of looks and smell to most “custies” and stuff. I don’t sell anything these days though, so irrelevant to me.

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Awesome!! Thanks so much! Now I can put this thing in and have my lights back in that part of the house. Haha

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Im 90% on all of that. I’d hate for your shit to explode because of me. Maybe @Coda and @The_Lazy_Hippie might wanna chime in for extra reassurance!

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They are both interchangeable Pat.

Item Comparison: CHFP115DF, CHFAFGF115PN - Products - Elliott Electric Supply

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Awesome info! Thanks! Much appreciated.

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This :arrow_up: :slight_smile:

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I am a scientist!

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image @Indicana_Jones

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