Widow is a big guessing game at this point, it got used a ton for crosses and fems and such over the years so tons of banks had their own version and its hard to know who got a cut and who didn’t.
My understanding is Mr.Nice’s Black Widow is the original White Widow from back in the day, confusing I know 
They had to rename it due to some dispute with another bank. I haven’t tried it yet but I do have some G13xWidow from them to run later.
Didn’t get big girls pics. I gotta move her tomorrow. The light has moving partially blocking her.
My autos instead. There getting swole. That’s 10 screw in bulbs. 2 floodlight LEDs. 1 warm 1 cool. Basically one big flood light bulb on each five-way dead center perfect coverage for this tent.
Hope. Lol
she might fall over with that Moby Dick top…
has anyone else noticed that White Widow has a dark green pheno but every vendor only take pictures of the fluffy lighter green pheno ?
To me white widow is a squat plant super dark leaves with that waxy sheen to it trichromes popping so hard that it just reflects back like ice from what I’ve seen the pictures nowadays they look totally different if there’s even a drop in the bucket.
I know you can get different variations different phenotypes but you’re right it’s like God damn man how did y’all end up there That’s what f***** me up so bad as I come out so I was like Black widow and aloha white widow? I’m like man just cut the b******* just I’ll stop looking and asking just let me know what’s up.
I blame everything on the police so. WW was fucked by 12.
it’s like purple Haze I see a lot of people talk about purple Haze but I’ve yet to see a true cut for real I’m just saying that like never seen a true caught in them haze like that real haze nobody around here has that s*** anyway.
I remember the strains were like big bud, early girl super skunk, northern lights Kali Mist, G13HP, Hindu, Afghan, Swazi Gold, Congolese, Uzi’s n Paki’s…I’m dreaming hehe!. Those are just a few strains and they were never rated low they never looked s*****.
I mean always wanted to grab some big bud just to see it’s been out for so long for me it has anyway and nowadays it just doesn’t look like it did these plants that I was seeing back in the day were absolute monsters fast ass finishers for this part of the world.
*I hope she gets thick enough to where she does fall over at that point I’ll throw strings on her like a marionette. You can only hope a plant will get that big right?
Whenever I see rust it worries me even if it’s just a few leaves on the top if it is rust is it okay to put a little Epsom salt in the water during flower?
I think it was Epsom salt that cleans up spots on the leaves? Thanks for any help dudes I’m just trying to lock this run down get it out of the way. Onward!
Some nice fat colas man 
Epsom salts is a magnesium supplement mostly.
yeah that looks like it could be magnesium, I’ve been getting the same thing with this soil mix. Been filling up a gallon jug of ph’d water with 1/2 tsp epsom salt and it seems to be fixing it. Unsure if I need to add it at every dose for the rest of the grow or if it builds up at all in the soil 
Oooh, speaking of White Widow, it looks like Paradise Seeds has an IBL line based off the original clone from the original breeder. Might have to pick that up
I’m just checked on it a little bit ago it’s thrown new leaves out and none of them have rust on it so once again my over paranoid asses I’m worrying about some s*** that’s trivial. It just sends you in the straight paranoia mode.
Thank you guys for your help last time I had Rust and all kind of stuff so that type of stuff makes me paranoid. I just have to stop every so often to make sure everything is cleaned up real nice if I don’t I’ll get powdered mildew I don’t even want to speak of it it’s like beetle juice. 
WW and IBL? That older school s*** gets my blood pumping I want a mean color during I got some orange over here I’m going to run maybe I’ll grow it out first then and see if that orange goji might be a candidate I got a lot of plans and a little bit of space.
I spent so much money on seeds dude I’m f****** tapped out for real I have to start running through them now like I said I have them white widows from Dutch passion I’ll pop them and run them just to see. I’m game they were freebies.
I bought a bunch of seeds from seed City which is in England and that was right before they shut down the credit cards a while back so I got some old stock s*** and I need to move through it I got some strawberry skunk purple strawberry sherbet and just different stuff AK-48 what else did I get and some seeds were freebies.
I’m not really pumped about thrir Nemesis I got a freebie from Royal Queen seeds it’s called critical so there’s some stuff that’s been calling me that I want to grow. 
I am surprised more of these extraction companies aren’t running big bud or critical mass. I have thought about using either as a part of a breeding project seems it would be a great base strain to start with. Hazeman’s aloha white widow is pretty good but that triple XXX (the white x aloha white widow) was freaking killer I need that one for the stash plus his grape 13.
I got to ask you dude is Hayes man a reputable company I have no f****** idea serious I’m not trying to be stupid or anything. But I had locked on there the strawberry cough and it popped back up it was only 50 bucks I was going to grab it and some other really nice strains but I’ve never grown anything out from A’s man I’m stuck on this strawberry cough man I got to have a cut of it but I don’t give a f***. Lol
Is it because the potency on there I mean like once again I don’t want to sound stupid but potency would have something to do with what you pull back off the extracts I would assume I guess try chrome coverage and potency or two different things huh now you got my f****** deers turning it’s not like I can do it I just wondered like you said why they wouldn’t do it?
What I have just says Critical. it’s in a blister pack it was a freebie just one fem seed it’s so f****** small you can barely see it.
I would definitely go for hazeman’s gear. You can order directly from him and he might be having a labor day sale I can’t remember what his email is let me do some digging. He works alot with the sour grapes that GGG works extensively with but I will never buy anything from GGG again after listening to their potcast. Hazeman has some firestarters and reasonable prices. I want that triple XXX , White Hashplant and some of his G13HP hybrids. I think I might start a couple G13HP from scjedi I know there’s some special high yeilding phenos in those. Let me track that email down.
Hell yeah dude let me know what you find out I skipped out on that fucking Strawberry Cough I should have just picked it up 50 bucks why not but he’s not the one that did that G13 Airborne is he?
I’ve been hearing a lot of shit about that but anything G13 is like fucking with a Quijia board. Fire in the air. Sign me up. Seriously though. Let me know what you come up with. XXX I smoked that. I got it mixed up with AAA aka Granddaddy Fire. Which is a missle as well.
Also I cloned my Goji plant last night x3 we’ll see what the happens with that pollen and I’m going to pop a couple of yours to just to get a female out of them.
I love me some Goji Mane about to twist me at 1 right now. Mine doesn’t look that good either. Ill get a picture out there from what I’ve seen of other people’s Goji doesn’t look like mine at all but it tastes just like it’s described and it came from a special dude here so I would never doubt him but I’ve heard they’re for real Gojii has like a hundred phenotypes.???
Not sure about the airborne g13 I can’t remember who started that I thought it was reefer man I know it was someone in canada.
Never had G 13 straight up wasn’t it as someone who is working in the Laboratories snuck clone out? Shit like that has a mother fucker you know that’s like that Honus Wagner of weed for real.
I think someone just stuck the name on some Hashplant they had when that whole story was going around just to sell some seeds but he’ll IDK it’s some good fucking weed whatever it is.
Old Dutch Genetics has (or had) an old White Widow
Im surprised you dont have a cut. I don’t know when you started doing your thing dude or how much you’ve done but from what I’ve seen you have some serious gear. I can’t wait to dig around and let me see what I find next year I’m going hard on the outdoor that blue goo look like a monster Outdoors.
I appreciate the info Sam we’re just trying to run down something I’m sure everybody else is done this before me LOL. That long-term prison sentence really fucked me up.
Imma go up the store on the way to the doctors and get some stamps tomorrow man. I want to get a few of those things out to you.
Little morning bud. Chem Mr Skewl shot me.
My understanding is BigBud’s only allure was that it had massive buds, the high/taste/flavor were garbage. Was good breeding material and that was about it. Hence why you never see it anymore except in old crosses.
I do see people still doing stuff with Critical but i’ve never been a fan really. It’s good but not my thing.
G13 though, that stuff is great. Had it a few times over the years and yeah, very fruity, uplifting almost trippy high from what I remember. Definitely not a downer. Not sure if I ever messed with the Airborne or not.
