So your favorite Smart Move was the OMG leaner? Interesting. Great looking plants. Love those big chunky spears in the first pic.
I’m going on vacation in about 10 days and when I get home I’m gonna keep my head down and just crush these overtime shifts at work so I can hurry up and buy a new house. First thing I’m gonna do is get about 30 of these A11g seeds wet and see which ones are still viable and grow some big nasty spears of my own. It’s all I can think about lately.
Yeah, but that’s probably because 1. I rarely grow those sorta non-stretchy, “old world”-type plants (not if I can help it, anyway)(the “non-stretchy”part; “old world” is fine with me) and 2. The tangerine smell was delicious. The high was really dreamy, which was kind of perfect for when I harvested it, right about when the COVID quarantining had just started, before we knew just how fucking long that was gonna last haha. Remember those first few months? When it was like,”Wow, this is so weird, nothing to do, nowhere to go, everything’s empty, party tiiiiiime!” haha…
Sounds like a plan.
Yeah that’s my ‘problem’ too, coupled with I can only consume so often. Luckily there are so many other varieties that are more pleasant & still potent enough for me.
Was hoping to see some Field Trips to motivate me to get to my pack haha.
Apollo 13 has a very tangerine type smell. A11g more pineapple due to the C99 B used.
Here was my favorite A13
& my favorite A11g
I’ve never grown Genius Thai anything but you can see the resemblance in the big spears.
That’s high on the priority list too. I think I have over 50 Field Trip seeds. I went a little nuts with those 
Popping the 4 for my next round in a few weeks with white lotus 
for good germ rates on them as there older depending on how many of the 9 i get up might pop some blue Tara too
Should end up with some ultra frosty plants between those 2 crosses!
Yeah, my A11’s smelled EXACTLY like Bodhi’s description of them, with that rotting pineapple/Cheetos thing going on, very delicious. But I don’t think he “used” any C99 haha. Pretty sure those A11 seeds were just repros of old Brothers Grimm stock. Which is fine by me haha.
That’s something I forgot to address re that Nikah, is that it is very, very potent. Really strong. I haven’t tried doing the whole “layering of hits” thing that higherthought suggested in his review of TK, but it probably would be a good idea to just do maybe one bong rip of the Nikah and then wait for a little bit before I do another one. I’ve just been doing like three or four rips right in a row haha; maybe taking my time with it would be a more pleasant experience. I might probably maybe wouldn’t even need to do more than two over the course of, like, thirty minutes to be good and high for three hours, easy.
One other thing I wanted to mention (because I was re-reading this thread, as I do all my threads, and forgot that I had brought this up) is that my girl went back on Master Minds a week later and she destroyed her competitors, made it to the final round, just her vs a Master Mind.
She didn’t win, though… haha! But still! She made it to the final round, which I think is pretty cool. I dunno when that episode is gonna air, but I’m looking forward to it for sure. It’s gonna be funny.
Yeah dude, I’m not over here ripping bong hits of TK back to back either 
I love only needing a few hits to be good for few hours. Layering could definitely help you out, especially since you’re not used to her. I usually let the wave pass before I go take another rip. When I was just getting started with her it was like one hit and then go do stuff, smoke something else. Getting used to her high means everything else that’s not up there in potency with her becomes weak-sauce.
A11g is Apollo 11 Genius x C99 f3… theres C99 phenos galore.
From B’s original description of A11g on Breedbay…
Brothers grimm cindy and apollo family releases have always been a treasure trove for quick finishing indoor sativa dominant plants,some people even say the closest they have ever gotten to the holy grail. it seems like c99 has gotten alot of attention recently… and dont get me wrong, i love c99 for its big yeilds of zippy melony buds, but my real love is for the genius clone and her children a11 and a13. apollo 11 for me is much deeper, psychedelic,feminine, motivating mind fire… with beautiful frosty extraterrestrial buds, peach hairs, and the aroma of pineapple cheetos. this release is my selection twords the genius pheno, from fet of spice brothers selection twords the g pheno, from a large population of original brothers grimm a11 stock. i made these originally for myself to cross into the genius and a13 clones, but its such an amazing plant ive decided to get these out asap, share the love, and hope you get as much enjoyment as i have from her. look for the more bushy g phenos, some with atypical branching, great for scrog, nice yeilds, extreme bag appeal, extreme mind appeal… beautiful stuff!!!
Genetics: genius x c99 f3 via brothers grimm/fet
Here’s a pack B gave me…
I’m aware of what the Apollo 11 genetics are. You said this:
Bodhi did not “use” any C99 in the A11f3/f4 seeds that he made. The C99 was already present; that’s what Brothers Grimm’s Apollo 11 is, is Genius x C99. All Bodhi did was select away from the C99 phenos and towards the Genius ones. He says it right there in his description of the A11 that you posted.
Did you really not know what the Apollo 11 genetics were? Or are you just fucking with me? Haha…
One thing you may wanna look for when you get around to planting all those A11 seeds is a sorta “zig-zag” meristem, which is supposedly a trait of the Genius. I noticed it on a few of the ones I grew, but not all of them, it’s pretty cool-looking. I took some pics of that trait years ago, but I dunno if I still have them. I’ll look on my computer later today and if I do, I’ll post them here so you can see what I’m talking about. I may have posted them on my first Apollo 11 grow log on thcfarmer, too.
Anywayyyyy…
Haha, I know, man, it didn’t even really occur to me to maybe treat the Nikah the same way as you and higherthought and whoever else have suggested treating straight TK until we started talking about the Nikah yesterday.
Maybe I’ll get back into it at some point and layer the hits and write an updated smoke report haha.
i cant remember why i ended up with two smart moves from a whole pack… prob damped them - but they were pretty much the same plant (one flowered a bit longer than the other) - same taste, same high, same structure etc. I really liked them but would have liked to get a pack’s hunt at least… my phenos were too leafy.
my only pagoda male had a stem/stalk zig-zag pattern… i didnt keep it cus the cross didnt really make it for me enough to try to make seeds for the first time. although lately its been getting smoked more…so i may regret that ha…
No I really thought that he took a genius clone and crossed it to a c99 f3… I gotta go on Breedbay and look more into this because that’s what I always believed. 
Now that I think about it tho… since they were f3s it does make sense if he had some f2s and made more seeds he’d call them f3s
Yeah, I mean, you know as well as anybody that that’ll happen haha. I guess I was just lucky that I got two very different phenos. Those ones that I grew were testers, maybe that had something to do with it, but I doubt that Bodhi did any “work” on them after he sent the testers out haha.
But maybe??? Just kidding, I’m certain he didn’t. You know how seeds work, it’s all luck of the draw. And I love that.
Haha, yeah, and didn’t you say that that Pagoda smoke was kinda weak? That woulda been kind of a bummer if you’d have put effort into making seeds of that one. I’m still mystified as to why that cross turned out kinda lame, it sounded like such a good one.
You don’t need to look into it, dude haha, it says it right there in Bodhi’s description that you posted (and that I’ve read a thousand times):
“Via Brothers Grimm.” Genius x C99. That’s what Apollo 11 is! Haha. Those are the genetics! Genius was from a bag seed of Jack that Bros Grimm got in Amsterdam, can’t remember the rest of the story about C99 and all that, but yes, Apollo 11 is Genius x C99.
All of the Brothers Grimm stuff is very well-documented. It used to be right on their website, but for some reason it isn’t anymore, which is unfortunate because I find shit like that fascinating. But I can guarantee you that you won’t have any trouble finding all of the relevant info online. You should check it out, it’s really interesting.
Forgot to address this, but there are absolutely not C99 phenos “galore” in Bodhi’s A11’s. He specifically bred AWAY from the C99, which seems like it would be pretty easy to do if that “zig zag” meristem really is a Genius trait and not a C99 one. All you gotta do is look for that, I guess haha. I found it in four plants in five females from one pack of seeds. The only one that that didn’t happen with was the one A11 that I didn’t (just outta curiosity) top, so maybe topping kind of brings that trait out. I dunno.
There’s a really good thread on icmag (or there used to be, anyway, I dunno if it’s still there, haven’t read it in years) from a member who’s name was Darwin about all the work he was doing with the Genius phenos of A11. When I was reading it, I think he was on like the seventh generation. I’m not gonna find it for you, but it’s worth reading for sure. Very informative. Just google something like “icmag Darwin Apollo 11 genius.” If that thread is still on icmag it should come right up.
Well one thing I do know is the taller lanky phenos were c99 dominant and that’s straight from the horses mouth… from B… and I saw those more when I grew the F3s…
So yeah I stand by what I said about C99 phenos being prevalent.
Mhm. Okay. Maybe he’d refined it by the time I got to the f4’s.
Do you have any grow logs of those A11 f3’s? Not on OG, I know you haven’t posted any grow logs here, but maybe on another site? Like, back when you had more time to document your grows? I’d like to read them if you have. I love reading about weed and everybody’s personal experiences with their plants, always interested in watching the process, even if it happened 20 years ago haha.
Archives cut is Schroomy420’s cut of Original Diesel. Been around since the early 2000’s
Thanks for the info. Does that mean it’s legit? I don’t know who Schroomy420 is. What I do know is that that Sour Diesel x Dragon Energy looked very promising, the flowers for sure had the look, but there were absolutely no “SD elements” involved as far as the flavor was concerned.
It was just one plant, though, and I still have a lot of those seeds, so… I’m not done with that cross yet haha.
Archive’s blueberry clone is also really nice.
I’ve been waiting a few years for archive pdx to restock the sour diesel, but it’s still listed on their menu. Not sure what the deal is with that.
