You know where they are if you feel the urge to sift through a few of them 
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Haha, thanks, dude. You grow āem! Iād rather see them outdoors anyway. Or in your kick-ass groovy indoors area haha.
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I ran Metal Haze (Bodhi F3) and two Metal Haze crosses last year.
In the end the Metal Haze wasnāt all that, for meā¦
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I thought it was okay - nothing exceptional. Though the plant was odour free, perhaps good if you are looking for a stealthy growā¦
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Running MangoBiche x Kashmiri again this year.
Thought is was quite a nice smoke.
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DCSE just sent an email blast with this:
Mass Medical Strains is excited to offer our latest landrace strain, the Laos Landrace from Muang Sing, Highlands, 19 degrees north latitude. This landrace was originally collected by the legend himself, Bodhi Seeds, on a strain hunting expedition in Laos near the China border in a remote location. The seeds were then grown and made more by Khalifa Genetics. I got these seeds from Khalifa Genetics and did an open pollination of just over 30 beautiful plants to preserve the genetic diversity in the strain. Multiple females and males were used and our release is of a mix of these seeds, similar to what you would get collecting them in their wild habitat. This strain produces very large seeds! This variety is originally cultivated by the Akha tribe in highland Laos
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Correct me if Iām wrong, but wouldnāt a landrace strain have little-to-zero āgenetic diversityā? By definition, isnāt a landrace strain pure and therefore not genetically ādiverseā at all?
Do these people even hear the words that come out of their mouths? Haha.
Not talking about you, Barefoot; Iām talking about the idiot who wrote that for Mass Medical.
Pretty sure @zephyr grew this one out (I might be thinking of a different one from the same seed-collecting trip), got the seeds from Bodhi and not from, uh, Mass Medical via Khalifa Genetics. It looked and sounded interesting.
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Iād get these straight from Khalifa for 44 instead of 79 from MMS, but thats just me. Good looking out though, it does look interesting.
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I understand your thought process and mass medical hate lol. but no, in this case its about base genetic diversity or pool, as far as I understand (and not only limited to cannabis cultivars) wild and landrace crops have a wider genetic base than bred cultivars.
(think about it like this: landraces and wild specimens are around hundreds of plants that randomly -openly- pollinate themselves, increasing that entropy or randomness over and over again, sure, some traits specially dominant will be noticeable, but in general its a wide random combination continous in the wild. whereas bred cultivars gene pool is being narrowed by human selection)
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Hm. Okay, thatās interesting, didnāt know that. Seems like maybe a descriptor other than ālandraceā might be more appropriate? Maybe?
Still, though, it sounds to me like Mass Medical just planted a bunch of seeds and said,āFuck itā¦ā haha.
Who? Me? I donāt hate Mass Medical haha. I just didnāt really appreciate it when they showed up here on this thread schilling their own genetics. Plus, everything they used for the majority of their crosses (a bunch of Bodhi gear) Iāve either already grown or have in my fridge, soā¦ Seems pointless to check out their seeds.
I think VagabondWindy might really hate them haha!, but Iām totally ambivalent hahaā¦
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def. i dont believe anyone who sells anything under a landrace label. they really dont exist thanks to guys like arjen and government prohibition - id like to think that there are some areas around the world with landraces, but doubt theyre being sold on the internet.
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Sorry, everybody, totally off-topic here, but
Yeah, I watched one episode of that Strain Hunters thing years ago, it was like āThe Search for Punto Rojoā or something like that. At the end, they were like,āYeah! We found it! The real Punto Rojo seeds! And we traded the growers a bunch of our Dutch genetics for it!ā I just slapped my forehead, like,āYou. Fucking. Moronsā¦ā
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That was a different line from the same collection trip, the one I grow is the
China Yunnan Dali Cangshan Mountain sativa landrace collection #6
longest strain name ever haha. They are the tallest plants Iāve ever seen, and the most vigorous and resilient I have ever grown. They grow up to 20 feet tall and finish in mid november.
Buds are loose open sativa structure, rich in cbd and trace cannabinoids, great for concentrates and very medicinal with a unique high.
I grow them outdoor every year, and keep mother plants indoor over the winter.
Hereās a few pictures of what they look like in my indoor grow as bonsais:
as to genetic diversity within landraces, they should be pure lines with decent phenotypical diversity.
the plant structure and overal growth traits are usually pretty consistent in a landrace population, but they havenāt been bred or hybridized to homogenize the population with high thc percentages in all phenos. they tend to have much more variety in terms of cannabinoid and terpene content and ratios. just my non-technical observations.
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Thatās right, my bad. I knew it was something from that trip. Iām never gonna remember the name, though (too long haha), so any time I see anybody mention anything from that seed-collecting trip of Bodhiās, Iām always like,āYeah, I think thatās the one zephyr grew!ā haha.
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I think they did that shit on purpose. They gave them their dutch beans to tarnish the gene pool, so even the people they got those beans from wonāt have it pure anymore. So many people bought into that bullshit show, and itās just them vulturing genetics from simple people with good intentions. Reminds me of the settlers trading native americans smallbox infected blankets for land.
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Seems like people have throw the term ālandraceā loosely for years, like itās synonymous with an IBL. It has some similarities, but not really the sameā¦
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I kinda wanna stay on the topic of Bodhi here haha, but
Thatās kind of what it reminded me of, as well. It definitely left a bad taste in my mouth after watching it (thatās the only one I watched; Iām not even sure it was a Strain Hunters episode, mighta been something on Vice TV or whatever itās called haha).
I dunno about that haha. Theyāre still black market dealers. They might have good intentions, but I doubt theyāre āsimple people.ā
It was gross to watch, though, for sure, for a variety of reasons.
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I think he meant āvilturing genetics from the simple people that have good intentionsā.
Strain Hunters donāt have good intentions. They are ruining genetics for profit.
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I understood what VA meant. And Iām saying that I donāt think the growers of the Punto Rojo are āsimple people.ā The Strain Hunter vultures donāt have good intentions, obviously, but the growers of the Punto Rojo are/were definitely not āsimple people just growinā their weed.ā Theyāre selling that shit haha. And I have zero problem with that.
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not meaning to take this further from where it got (initially discussing a bodhi laos plant given to mass medical or something like that) but this paper has good info on why landraces display common traits while at the same time being the most diverse genetically.
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