CaliBest420 aka Mark on Strainly

I’m not sure if you have read this thread in its entirety but the auto flower seeds are not my only issue , I don’t like when people sell false genetics. He has many clone only strains in seed form listed as the that strain which is impossible with out a back cross and he does not mention nor is he willing to discuss what they actually are. I’m sorry but dishonesty is dishonesty I don’t care how cheap your seeds are or if they grown quality herb. If I buy a can or corn and open it to find peaches I would be upset regardless of the price or the quality of the peaches. I haven’t looked at his list for a long time because when I did I saw enough issues to never look again.
Btw csi gives out tons of freebies and is known to actually have the strains he claims to be working with.
If your not breeding and don’t care what genetics your actually growing it’s probably not a issue but for those of us who do care it’s a major one.
He either has no understanding of genetics or is labeling them incorrect on purpose to take advantage of names people want. With a name like calibest420 it’s not surprising , dosent dude live in Arizona or some other state.
And no I don’t think I’m being a bit harsh everything I’m saying is valid and I’ve said it in what I consider to be a rather polite manner. A bit harsh would be to go out of my way to slam him on every forum I can find or to actually use the words I want to describe the way I see him conducting business but that would be unacceptable on this site so i refrain.
If you find my statements a bit harsh I’m sorry but this is a public forum and we are allowed to express our thoughts regardless if they are harsh or not, I’m not going to tip toe around the facts to avoid hurting feelings, his own actions have resulted in judgement and that is on him not me.
I also consider his seeds to be expensive considering how they are produced , he is pollinating large outdoor grows and you can get thousands of seeds from a single small plant. I can buy 20 cucumber seeds for $4 and they will grow the cucumber variety they are listed as being , his are a dollar each and may or may not be grow something similar to what they are labeled as. It’s sloppy breeding and you won’t find any decent breeders or preservationists that have anything good to say about it.
Nobody likes wasting time to grow something out and find out it’s not what was expected . People like this are why it is so hard for some to find the real sour diesel, og kush, blue dream etc somebody who dose not know better buys a pack of ghost og keeps there favorite female and starts giving out or selling clones as ghost og when in reality it’s some type of og genetics at best but not the ghost cut. People get upset when people sell fake cuts well this is one of the ways it happens. What ever you were sent as bubba kush and chemdog for example are not those strains, they are clone only strains and can not be recreated or bred to be pure, so call it what you want but it’s a false label which is a lie and I don’t respect liars.
Say you pay me for a pure bred pit bull and I give you a chihuahua, does the fact it’s a good looking chihuahua make it ok or that the price was lower then average, no not at all so why should it be any different with cannabis seeds. It’s a insult to breeders who have spent a lot of time working there lines and acquiring certain genetics to mis represent those lines to people who are probably excited to grow them , not everybody can get verified bubba kush or chem clones etc so people jump on those beans not realizing what the issue is. I’ve seen him list strains I can just about guarantee he does not have. Also selling beans of another breeders work that is currently available with out there permission is disgraceful and stealing money from that person as far as I’m concerned.
People say he is nice and sends tons of seeds but seem to forget the number one skill of a con artist is the ability to sell them selves and convince others they are a good person. I’ve seen long time known quality breeders ran off forums because they spoke there mind in a way the community did not approve but then the community turns around and supports people like this. There is a reason a lot of the older heads and breeders don’t bother with the forums anymore , it’s depressing to see the way the culture is headed.
You can sell cheap soda as coke but if it tastes and looks like Fanta your a muck chee regardless of the quality or price.

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Excellent post heritage.

I’ve already posted a lot about calibest420 mark’s sloppy methods and lack of ethics, but on a personal level, I just won’t stand for this guy cheapening the names of classic bay area strains by lying about his bogus genetics.

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I guess you don’t know Fanta is Coca Cola.

From my experience he has no problems giving the background of any of his seeds. It really boggles my mind that the dude would catch so much shit for what he does when so many people have great experiences with his gear.

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Your not making your point sound any better , coke making Fanta has nothing to do with the fact that they are entirely different drinks which is what I was using as the example.
What are you suggesting by your statement ?
are you implying that what I said would be ok to do because they are the same parent company, you can try and justify his misinformation all you want but there is no way to change what it is , false claims.
I have attempted to contact him numerous times as have others about his genetics and regardless of what you say he has never responded with a answer about these issues.
He is welcome to come on here and try to defend himself but I doubt he will because there is no defense for his actions.

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I know someone who’s growing out his blueberry ghost cookies and they said its vigor is insane. Things are outgrowing everything else he popped at the same time

No the point is they are the same

Never mind, why i bothered to voice my opinion is beyond me, carry on

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Because the guys not up on the forums to stick up for himself he gets shat on. If his seeds sucked it would be one thing but they don’t. He answers whatever questions.

People love bog gear. People don’t care for it at all. There’s different strokes for different folks. Doesn’t make him wrong just because you think something

Ok so you’ve been in buddy’s collections and seen his stuff first hand and know what he does and doesn’t have

You guys sound absurd :v:

If you really think Fanta and coke are the same drink because they come from the same company or are going to try and make such a ridiculous claim I’m honestly waisting my time with this conversation.
Your answers are abstract and do not address what I am discussing.
Continuing to reiterate that they grow good herb has nothing to do with him making false claims of what it is and you avoiding the issue and trying to use a positive to counter act a negative is very flawed argumentative logic.

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Gonna let the children have this thread. L8R

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I sound stupid ? you should be careful with your insults considering you seem to have a serious issue understanding basic language. They are different products made by the same company , you sound like somebody who is just arguing for the sake of arguing or has to fragile of a ego to admit what you spent money on is not what you thought.
Does it hurt when you think because it’s painful to read what you write.

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Lol wow you guys have fun

Yes you sound stupid when you say two things are different when they couldn’t be more the same. Like I explained.

Not sure how this is flag worthy as offensive 🤷

and this is a 25 horsepower yamaha outboard motor:

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Looks like a quality product so must be what you say and how dare anybody question you.
I have a nice NSX for sale , so what if you get a beat up motor out of a lawnmower , Honda’s a Honda right ?

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Go make another 10 edits to a drawn out explanation as to why your opinion on something should matter to anyone when you can’t even realize that Fanta and Coca Cola are literally the same company and that was the stupidest example you could of picked for what you were trying to get across in your short story.

Oh my god you guys, soda? Lol yes same company… two different drinks.

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