Interesting, cause we have multiple greenhouses, warehouse, etc and predatory mites have been working wonders. No half life calculations required.
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I donât sleep on a cot in my grow area. Itâs fine. Donât eat the hot shot strips and you will be OK.
Predator mites control. They do not eliminate. A better solution would be Floramite, Avid, or Judo or something, but if you got strips, use the strips.
Do you understand what ornamental use only means? Do you know why we have this designation for pesticides? This chemical has been banned in the EU for over 20 years due to itâs toxicity. But hey Vernal says itâs ok to use, so go hang strips around your plants. 
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Europe bans lots of things. Guns, independent thought and speech, effective pesticides.
Yes, condescending collin, I understand what ornamental means. What I am saying, is that a single use of âornamental onlyâ pesticides to eliminate a spider mite infestation is not going to hurt you. Should you spray it every day for years without PPE, right up until harvest? No.
You want to discourage spider mites with other mites and really foster a sense of âgood vibesâ in your plants? Feel free. Those that want a chance to actually fix their problem, well, the information is there.
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You trying to say our European members canât think independently?
I need to go to work. Iâll respond more later. Maybe Iâll even take some pictures of our plants that have absolutely no spider mites or thrips. We do get some fungus gnats.
Yeah Iâd love to see her warehouses and greenhouses that u control insects with beneficial insects lol they are cool to have flying around a greenhouse for fun but they really wont eliminate mites and for u to try to say they will is bullshit. Yes people know what ornamental means we arent fucking stupid but if the test says it is clean then it is clean. There are many ways to skin a cat and ur way def is least effective if u have a problem in the garden u want it gone asap u dint wanna play with it as u wait for it to get worse
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Mr shepherd how many times you introduce predatory mites during floweringâŚaaaand do you give em some extra food if you use em as a preventive control when bad mites are not present?
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I was thinking u were talking about lady bugs lol. Iâve never used predatory mites before but from what I know about em is that they only eat spider mites so unless u have a spider mite issue in the first place they wont be effective as a preventative because they will starve and die off without a food source. And if I had a spider mite situation I sure wouldnât wanna wait till my predatory mite shipment arrives fresh and then hope they can reproduce and outnumber the spidermites to eradicate them. All the while the spider mites are laying eggs and becoming more wide spread. So idk what ur boss and his 15000 sq ft of canopy does over there but over here on this side we like to cure the problem immediately. So the point is that both our weed tests clean ur weed just has a bunch of mite shit and dead bodies on it so congrats tonur boss and his legal weed @PlantShepherd
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No they will hunt down anything that causes your plant harm, thrips and fungus gnat larvae, I have used them for fungus gnat control, they are very cost effective.
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From what Iâve read the 3 main types of predatory mites only eat two spotted mites maybe ur using a different kind of beneficial insect or bacteria
you can get a strain of spider mite thatâs invincible to everything on the surface of this earth. I donât care what it was, I bombed them and probably got exposed to cancer. In the end, I discovered that a surgical scrub of the plant, gets rid of all spider mites and itâs safe for babies too. Get your clones or clippings, strip off all leaves, crap on the roots. submerge that underwater for 30min, take it out and use the vegetable sprayer to wash the stick. No need to hit the store or wonder what kind of cancer you got from what kind of poison. Also a good scrub of the grow area while youâre soaking the plants is a great plan. Works for any kind of clone I used it on the Vaccinium corymbosum.
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You obviously have no experience using predatory bugs from your responses - pretty much everything you said is incorrect. We had an entomologist come to our facility and work with us on properly using beneficial insects. So you would spray avid on 30â x 100â greenhouses? Whatâs the cost on that? Do you have your workers suit up, or do you let them spray and get it on their skin?
At this time we are using a combination of Cucumeris and Persimilis. We spray in veg to keep the plants as clean as possible. Once they are moved to the main greenhouse/flowering room they receive applications of predator mites and nematodes. Itâs important to have sachets or containers that can be placed just underneath the canopy like so:
You can check out @greenlifeproductions on IG. They also use âHippie Shitâ to control their bug issues. 
@Grapefruitroop Definitely no Mr lol. We only introduce predators once during flowering.
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Napalm can slow them down - for a bit 
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I see you have greenhousesâŚ
Indoor im afraid that to save my ass 100% i should either make two release during flowering or buy some pollen to feed the good guys and let them breed waiting for an eventual pray.
When i introduced some on the Mothers that were bug free i saw them crawling around for about a monthâŚThe sackets that Koppert is making has included some unharmful mites to feed the Swirskis for awhileâŚ
I will flip in few days, the spray time is gone, i did spinosad 11,6% yesterday and im thankful i did that and not the abamectin cause the room is hella packed, noroom to walk standingâŚits impossible to dont soak yourself in what you are sprayng and im out of waterproof sute âŚi think in few weeks ill release some good guys inside the growroom but lot more around the house near the garden, trails etcâŚ
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So where do u see in this link a way to kill spider mites? Did u read the link before u sent it to me?
If you looked you would see it.
FUNGUS GNATS
SPIDER MITES
Two-spotted spider mites will enter a âred phaseâ when they go into diapause, most often triggered by day length. When they do, they need to find a place to âhibernateâ, which is typically down in the soil. In greenhouses, they often utilize ground penetrations like plumbing or posts to easily get down to a safe depth for this vulnerable stage of their life.
Fortunately for growers, Stratiolaelaps scimitus will easily locate and feed upon these spider mite refuges. For growers in greenhouses, it is recommended to give a 25ml scoop of Stratiolaelaps scimitus media to each ground penetration, and then broadcast the remaining product along the floors of the greenhouses during the off-season. This will give next seasonâs crop a huge advantage.
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My biggest problem with most insecticides/miticides are the chemical compounds found in these products, like avermectin(Avid), bifenazate(Floramite), spinosad, myclobutanil(Eagle 20) and many others that leave residuals on plants that are then consumed by humans.
Almost all miticides use compounds that are neurotoxins, they kill the mites, but they are toxic to us too, especially if inhaled or consumed!
The main ingredient in Avid has caused lab mice/rabbit offspring to be born with cleft palate⌠now tell me thatâs ok to spray on your cannabis plants!
Most of the products most talked about on these forums are not to be used on consumable plants, like cannabis. They are made for ornamental, non edible, plants and turf grasses.
Many of the products talked about are banned and tested for their use on cannabis in every legal state to date.
Many of the products talked about are on federal/state banned chemical lists.
People that disregard chemical bans/warnings and use these products on their cannabis anyway show how unscrupulous they are willing to be to make a buck. But more than anything else they are showing how ethical they are towards consumers.
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