I wonder, is this just a smoking thing?
Are edibles included in this hyperemesis deal?
Damn, maybe living under a rock, ie; not buying gear for 23 plus years now, maybe was the best health decision we made, shunning dispo gear, making our own edibiles for us, butter, oils.
Hell my stalks/fan leaves, and other landfill rescue items are part of worm bin medium, also.
Farm to bowl, going up the steps.
Some 53 years or so, I’ve been a cannabeing, maybe vitamin D3 is helping, LOL!
It’s related to gut health.
I was told recently by a doctor that they have seen an uptick in chs particularly in edibles users fwiw
Something that no one has mentioned is the intentional poisoning that’s going on,
or has been going on for decades.
From the Spanish Flu to Tuskeegee experiments to very carcinogenic hairspray, Bromide soda drinks, Fluoride tap water, Margarine, Cigs, Paraquat, tainted vaccines, and now today’s Cannabis products.
It get’s exposed, covered up, gas lighted, resurfaces somewhere else, renamed or blamed, etc.
It’s all planned & intentional.
I have very old books about government, real Oligarchies, control and depopulation or NWO.
All I’ll say for now, I don’t want to argue with anyone, we may differ based on what we understand up to this point but
We’re all still getting picked off for profit as planned.
Without sounding like a crazy, I think you are closer than most. It’s the unhealthyness of everybody caused by systemic bullshit diets and daily poisoning by the chemicals used in EVERYTHING
I’ll type up my anecdotal evidence of it later when I’m on my computer, but it’s basically:
“New smoker” who hasn’t smoked in 20 years.
About four months into smoking and he gets food poisoning (what the fuck else would it be right?). Craziest shit ever. Throws up literally 60x in 12 hours, lays on the floor freezing but sweating more than anything you’ve ever seen. Feel like he’s dying and the only thing helps is laying in the tub with hot water running. Can’t sleep, can’t eat, can’t drink (throwing up started 3am).
Holy shit. Food poisoning sucks, but it’s over and fine with thanks God.
Month and a half later, exact same thing… FML, it might not have been food poisoning. Exactly the same. Other than SEVERE dehydration, after the bout, completely fine.
Third time. Vacation out of the country. Get there, everything is fine. Go to bed, wake up and once again throwing up 1000x, only reprieve being laying in the tub with hot water. Dehydrated to the point my legs didn’t work. Took days to recover and only spent two days “vacationing”. Finally told my family that I think it might be chs since you know, third time’s a charm…
Fourth time same thing.
Never went to the doctor and diagnosed by Dr Research.
Facts:
- Never done a dab
- Edibles don’t do anything to me so I didn’t take them
- Only smoked distro weed once.
- Only smoked weed I grew other than
- Smoke all day every day, like hit a bowl a couple times often or a bong hit here or there. ~2-3g a day.
- None of the pesticides talked about in this thread were used except neem on one grow but not oil. Pellets soaked and watered in to kill gnats early into grow.
Hmmm… Wasn’t going to type all that out but got on a roll.
It IS related to gut health, of that I am certain.
Anyways. I’m 100x healthier than I was then, lost almost 70lbs, haven’t had an episode since I think April.
I’ll take any questions anyone might have and can do an actual detailed timeframe instead of off the top of my head later if anyone cares.
Edit: from what I’ve seen, what I suffered is “textbook” chs… If you think it’s something else like cancer or kidney failure or something else terrible, please let me know
Thank you @ix3u.
One more thing, a challenge if you will.
Get a pair of chicken thighs or a couple breast. Cook them alone in a clean skillet with lid on. They may take 15 minutes, but pour off the liquid into a bowl or pan and let cool.
I’ve made half a dozen videos of the results that I’ve found.
In the worse case there are 3 seperate layers. These are substances INJECTED into the meat, sometimes at the store, but usually during processing.
The upper layer, (dark honey colored layer) is the most bouyant and once it cools, it congeals into a silicone like material.
It holds it’s shape, you can throw it like a frisbee, it sticks, it’s fun for the whole family, it smells of plastic when burned. It is water soluble too.
I’ve dehydrated it into a solid, basically a big booger.
This is what you see them slurping out in heart surgery videos.
The second layer is a trans-fat grease. It’s not natural either, whitish and maintains varying viscocity w temperature. You can feel it in/on any raw meat. It coats your hands like an automotive grease. It’s not water soluble. Some have mentioned it coats your stomach and intestines so you can’t absorb nutrients, more problems later.
I know an old woman who made gravy from that sh!t and outlasted 3 husbands °○°
The third that comes out is normal ole chikin’ fat, I know because I use to raise chickens for 20 years. Again I’m just sharing random thoughts.
this is likely enough to trigger a reaction, especially if your system was stressed and open to the problem. Once exposed it only takes a tiny bit for the body to have a full reaction
One of the reasons I need to go check the actual timeline. That was possibly in my second grow and I might not of even smoked any of that one… I grew for family for almost a year before I smoked.
This!
Most doctors have no idea about this. Ive known more than a few folks in the medical field, and theyre basically totally ignorant to it. Ive been trying to shout it from the hill tops since friggin 2016, and at first I was called a kook about it. Despite it being the single most common thing that farms fail for in testing. They just do anything they can to not make it public. Especially since the legal grow scene nowadays is known for screwing up everything they touch.
I would be very curious to see if the probiotics in kefir would help repair the gut biome. (I’m taking about homemade kefir, not the crap you buy in a pre-made drink).
My daughter’s FIL has this (first time hearing about it), and he is in terrible health. Cracks a Mountain Dew in the morning, and drinks 'em all day, cigarette smoker, lots of junk food…not much exercise and terrible balance.
His symptoms are the same as everyone seems to describe, and a HOT shower is the only relief. Crazy stuff!
I’ve had CHS “Cannabis hypermesis syndrome” or CVS “Cyclic vomiting syndrome” for around 15 years or so. Id rather call it CVS because im not entirely sure my case is cannabis related other than a couple doctors that related my cannabis use with nonstop vomiting and hot showers. I believe its a combination of gut health and stress, alongside azadirachtin (neem) or possibly another pesticide/nutrient poisoning. Ive noticed episodes for me are usually triggered by food at restaurants or getting dehydrated at work. I usually experience symptons around once a year, start vomiting and cant hold down any food or water for approximately a week. Went to the ER once to hear i was suffering from renal failure from being overly dehydrated. Its honestly the worst and i feel for anyone experiencing severe symptons.
Don’t be a sheep. Hiding Cannabis use in 2024 us literally folding to big brother
That sounds more like gastroperesis syndrome
One if the reasons Also why’ i don’t touch hype strains garbage.
I stick to heirlooms that have highs that have kega5abd character. Not Just a dull blunt 30 minute high then sleepy
I’ll look into that. Thanks
Edit: it literally doesn’t sound like that at all other than throwing up
I have gastroperesis, it literally looks like withdrawal from opiates, hot cold sweets, shaking, vomiting, can’t shit, laying in hot baths completely mitigates symptoms.
Weed is literally the only thing that works for it for me.
Interesting. Just the quick look didn’t sound like that at all, but what you are saying is EXACTLY it. I didn’t know about opiate withdrawal personally, but I’ll believe you on that.
Yeah matter of fact oddly enough gastroparesis is what led me to a clinical opiate addiction that spilled over into a black market addiction once I was quote unquote better. On top of a pelvic fracture but that’s a whole another can of one but yeah now interesting enough
As I’m reading about cannabis hyperemesis syndrome a little more gastroparesis is one of the like one of its secondary mechanisms.
Basically gastroparesis means low motility of the gut meaning food doesn’t digest it just sits there and sits there and it starts I can only assume start getting slightly septic or you have a very large abundance of digestive acids because the food’s not going anywhere.
This is how gastroparesis plays out for me every time when I get a flare up.
I have to empty my stomach completely by initiating vomiting by sticking my hand on my throat because you aren’t quite sick enough to really vomit usually it just hurts so fucking bad it’s like.
But after I get some food out and some stomach fluids for the end of the day or the next day I’ll puke up this extremely bright fluorescent green yellow bile that smells like a wet dog in literally as soon as that gets out of you you get flushed with a hot sweat and then immediately you’re better like it never happened like a light switch…
Weed is usually the only thing that works for me like all that stomach medication they give you in the hospital make it worse like there’s one they give you it’s supposed to relax your stomach muscles it makes it 10 times worse cuz it’s harder to throw up like you have to throw up to get that shit out of you
And then I’m reading that the hyperemesis syndrome is basically an oversaturation of your CB1 receptors in your digestive tract which act is anti-emetics. So when I’m reading above about the guy who was a 40 year old smoker who didn’t smoke much but got a batch and started vomiting from it and his case it couldn’t be an oversaturation a CB1 because he was absent for fucking a long time and just a gram or two a day shouldn’t oversaturate I mean come on think about how we used to smoke back in the face on the bus I mean shit sometimes I will go to a concert with 28 grams rolled up in one gram once and just take him to the face and nonstop I mean I know plenty of people who did this. And it very well could be that this homogenized cannabinoid modern hybrid shit that’s just all THC without the concert of other cannabinoids is a little out of balance.
Remember reading about how THC can actually kill you but you would never encounter such an imbalance of THC to its regulatory cannabinoids in the actual bud to ever have that problem so it’s ugly head because cannabis and itself was self-regulating and its effect because I had a concert of cannabinoids so when you have this homogenized single cannabinoid type of strain now it is indeed out of balance naturally and not what it normally would be so they’re very well could be some merit to this but I always take things like this with a grain of salt because the medical field and the powers that be want nothing more but the demon eyes cannabis regardless of its vast legality and ever-changing climate anybody gets a chance to fucking call weed the bad guy they will take it in spades
I get gastroparesis from edibles and big meal before bed, high probability trigger
I havent had chs symptoms since cutting dabs out, lowering my edible intake to every couple of days (as opposed to increasing dose as tolerance increases) smoking only flower and penjamin
When i had chs the most it was california dispo weed which does support pesticide argument
Now i get hawaii dispo weed and perhaps will attempt to try dabbing and see what happens, however i can say this, i got a doublepuff (holds 2 507 carts) and was using it religiously for 1.5 weeks (live rosin carts) and i was hitting both carts simultaneously (can choose left cart, right cart or both) obviously i had a sativa in one slot and indica in the other, and it got me so fucking high while playing vr that i had to lay down for an hour. No chs symptoms. I think the hawaii dispo weed aint got pesticides, on the wall there it says all this organic crap
And i want to point out that i used to have gluten intolerance (probably the american pesticides on grain) and got into baking sourdough, well if the ingredients are sourced correctly (organic) it causes no problems.
Fuck u PESTicides