I don’t want to sound like a “know-it-all” guy, but a friend of mine was severely impacted. I didn’t know it had a name until this article came up.
After 20 years of heavy daily joint smoking, he was in the prodromal phase constantly, with occasional acute episodes (a few times a month).
Constant retching, nausea, and occasional vomiting were related to the smoking.
We couldn’t figure out the reason. He always grew his own and used hydro (and he’s good at it). His preference are sativa dominant hybrids. I can’t confirm it 100%, but my guess is that it could’ve been flushed more properly.
But everyone has a different stomach, and things change when you’re 20, 30, or 50. So, I guess some people might be much more sensitive.
Not related, but to give you an idea, I know a grower who has a serious skin allergy, and even touching the cannabis leaves caused a reaction way worse than, say, stinging nettles. Not ideal for a grower! It also seemed like it developed over time.
@420noob, I’ve changed the name to “Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome”
Sorry, but I can’t agree it’s related to decriminalization, legalization or regulation of cannabis. That seems like a bit of a stretch.
it may not be related to those things directly, but indirectly through the use of pesticides and other things that were not that prevalent in our bodies until legalization. sounds like your friend got into one ot the things used by commercial growers now. that would be a simpler explanation in my opinion. or it could also be as pointed out above that it’s just way stronger and more accessible today and causing problems that way, or just reported more often now that it’s legal. that would also explain your friend’s case. we need more studies to find out for sure though.
My take is that if it’s about pesticides, regulation and proper testing could only improve the situation.
I’m a believer in consumer choice theory. When competition is allowed to operate without undue interference (thanks to legalization), consumers tend to prefer higher-quality goods, and competition encourages the production of better products.
The story is like 10 years old (pre-legalization era)
That anesthesia thing is real. I found out first hand via a colonoscopy. 2 syringes and a nurse who was amazed I wasn’t out…and a no-fucking-fun procedure that followed.
Believe me, on the next one I didn’t agree to have the procedure done w/o a full-on anesthesiologist in the mix.
Its not though. Its just what big brands are saying to throw people off.
I used to get tons of tests, they always included azadactrin(neem). I dont know what state youre speaking to, but California labs have tested for it forever. Spraying anything in flower is bad of course. But I made hash from growers all up and down the state, and myclobutinal(avid/eagle 20) was without a doubt the issue. Ive seen tests with 17 ppm of myclo make people get sick exactly like everyone is talking about. If SC Labs didnt screw us iver and delete almost ten years of backlogged tests, Id be able to show hard proof of it. But the labs dont want that info out there. Since its covering big producers putting out dirty ass buds that butter their bread.
The thing is… it looks like blood and urine tests may detect mycobutanil exposure, and you would think people presenting with the symptoms of CHS would have a tox screen? I could be wrong, but I think CHS may be one of those diagnoses that doctors make when all other explanations have been ruled out.
Ive had CHS a bunch and gone to hospital for, they look at the blood (one time remarking on white blood cell count) but ive never had this tox screen thing u mention, however i may be a unique case as i strictly boof my weed
I have a buddy at work who suffers from this. He’d been smoking for well over 40 yrs but all of a sudden, started getting sick when he’d get high and had to stop smoking at lunches, before work etc
He’s also diabetic & requires regular insulin and other medications, so there are “variables” in his case.
But still, smoking for over 40 yrs, taking insulin and necessary meds for about 20 yrs of that, then out of nowhere gets hit with hyeremesis? . --and he doesn’t buy from dispos regularly, he has plugs & I’ve even given him some of my homegrown which, basically at this point in his life, smoking ANY weed gets him sick he claims edibles do not, or at least not every time, but he doesn’t like edible-highs.
So I kinda break it down to two major variables over the course of time; #1 overall cannabinoid levels are likely HIGHER than they’ve ever been in human history, and #2 as I previously stated there is IMO a major imbalance of the cannabinoids being bred for over & over again which could be exacerbating the hyperemesis in most people
Their concern was like kidney malfunction or some such, its hard to recall as i was often in substantial pain. But they never mentioned tox screen it was just like blood analysis and stuff and scans in giant machine
I’ve had this. If it was dosage I would be sick as a dog right now. My dosage is out of this world and has been for years. I had this in the early 2000’s and it was from the dirty “bc” bud we used to buy from the Asian grows in canada that did it. Once i was able to get clean room grown weed I have never had this problem ever again. The weirdest symptom is that hot water from the shower on your belly makes the pain go away. There is no mistaking it for anything else. It is a very unique symptom. Before I figured out it was the BC bud with sulfur, neem +++ on it I was taking five showers a day. But once I gave up the BC bud it went away.
I’m not sure blood work would pick this up unless they were specifically looking for it.
Hot shot no pest strips won’t show up unless you look for the active ingredient
It also seemed like it developed over time.
. --and he doesn’t buy from dispos regularly, he has plugs & I’ve even given him some of my homegrown which, basically at this point in his life, smoking ANY weed gets him sick 