Conspiracy theories

Do plants respond to gravitational pull of sun vs moon , summer vs winter , the tidal forces . Will turning lights on at night vs the daytime cause more stress on plants, can the plants tell it’s night/winter by earth natural forces , are plants stressed more indoors growing in winter vs natural growing seasons

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Errf is phlatttt… poles are a meme… gravity too… (obviously sarcasm) but to answer your question, I’m not sure

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The roots are guided down by gravity. Other than that not much else matters.

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I’ve got a phenomena to add to your list! :vulcan:
The vines that grow spirals along their lengths to decrease the chance of breaking when stretched. Was it really, truly, purely, random mutation and natural selection that lead normal vines to develop this Dr. Seuss shit? :spy:

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clickbait title. :thumbsdown:

I came here for juicy conspiracy theories. I was expecting Ratman Sam, Skunk #1, Phylos, Monsanto conspiracies at the very least but hoping for so much more. :joy: :laughing:

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I’m a certified born-to-fail newbie and managed to successfully grow a plant in DWC in winter with lights on at night (to save money and have some heat), so I think the answer to all that is NO. As long as you convince your plant that she is in Jamaica and every day is Sunday you will have no problem at all, give her what she likes and make her happy, that’s all you need … :sunglasses:

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That may happen because the humidity and temperature cycles are not the same and change more roughly (as in winter). If a plant is always in a tent she has no way to know what’s happening outside. It is different when you grow outdoors, the moon influences on when to harvest or seed and sometimes spring comes later and agricultors have to wait, but indoors you play with those conditions and give the temperature and humidity needed.

I hope that plant is not weed, it would be like eating always only one kind of cheese with all the varieties available, quite boring … :sunglasses:

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Perhaps the plant may respond differently… but in my humble opinion, it’s probably different responses to different conditions… longer days warmer temps vs shorter days and cooler temps

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I think those things do effect the plant to some degree. Old school farmers will plant and harvest based on moon cycles as people have done for thousands of years.

I will say I think we’ve bred the plant to such a new/unnatural state for indoor gardening that the differences are probably not very pronounced though.

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Call me a hippie but I do think there is something magical going on with the moon and alignment of the stars so I do think there is merit to the germination with the moon cycles.

As for natural seasonal changes vs artificially created environments, I don’t think it matters much with plants as long as they are on a 24 hour circadian rhythm cycle. I think my shrimps are more complex life forms and they don’t seem to care either as they were steadily breeding through the winter.

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Yep. Over a long period, plants with tendril like apparatus that allowed them to grow upwards towards the sun while using other plants as support will have had a significant advantage, leading to their dominance. . What an awesome system huh?

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Can I go one step further and ask ‘can plants feel?’ Do they ‘think’, or have a form of consciousness? Believe it or not some studies seem to indicate that they do!

Not the most scientific article,I know. I’ll dig around for more academic stuff…

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Yes is the answer to that IMHO, although maybe not in the same way we might imagine. There are a number of studies for example on plants releasing Jasmonate when under attack, this is a volatile phytohormone that is carried on the air. Plants that are attacked use this to indicate to other plants that an attack may be imminent and triggers an immune defensive response. So hops for instance are triggered to produce more resin to ward of attack even when a hop plant that is some distance away is attacked. So while I personally don’t think there is a ‘consciousness’, because the neurology for that is lacking, they most definitely communicate. So, I guess it begs the question, what is ‘thinking’ and ‘feeling’?

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Very interesting, this is getting pretty deep here haha. I’m trying to remember some Star Trek TNG episodes that touched on those questions :rocket:

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Well then hippie, I agree with you :wink: I don’t know about plants, but I do know that fish are incredibly sensitive to the moon cycles. It makes sense that if it is the only time piece that has been in existence since forever and that all life has evolved with this fact in place, that a LOT of living things would be sensitive to moon cycles. You try catching something on the darks (no moon)… it’s normally a complete waste of time. Hospital admissions are also usually higher on the full moon, so it definitely does something.

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WEED CAME FROM THE ALIENS…

I’ll leave that right here lol

Now it should get good @paintedfire420 lol

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I have read studies that show that plants bond with their carer, and know if they are stressed up to 50 K away. All living things have an energy field or aura, and consciousness. Everything creates energetic links to other living things in their fields of consciousness.

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If you are happy your place to are happy. If you’re a crazy disheveled mess, your plants will reflect that

You can look at my grow logs and tell me specifically when I was doing my best mentally and when I wasn’t

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It depends on what he means by ‘responds differently’. My wife responds differently depending on how drunk I am when I eventually fall into bed :laughing:
Different environment conditions can have big impact on pheno expression, by way of example, in the early days of my fumbling around with making my own seeds with a few others. We would grow out and pick phenos by growing them in Cocco. What became very obvious is that I could put a clone of the same plant in Coco VS DWC and end up with pretty much a completely different outcome. Different smell, different structure and different growth habit! This is also sometimes VERY obvious when you put a clone from an indoors plant outside, to the point I have more than once thought I had completely mixed them up! Now of course this could just be me and something strange I am doing, but I seriously doubt it.

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Uh oh… nobody told me cleaning was involved in this sport.

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