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#100

When I got the Hawaiian from a BOEL chemist, Greg hit me up to tell me what I had (that its the sativa that his BOEL contact in Hawaii outcrossed to his NL to make NL5)
Greg told me there was the original NL (no numbers) which his crew made with a few Afghans. Then, NL got outcrossed to different lines to make the numbered NL lines.
He said NL1 is Skunk(Mazar) x NL. NL2 is Hindu Kush x NL. So on and so on for the rest of the numbered lines.
He also reiterated to me the story of how Nevil, and others, tried to backdoor him through nDn guy. But Greg said nDn guy didn’t have Greg’s trust (nDn guy wasn’t a veteran but his son was, and other reasons) so he never got the pure lines, only crosses, but nDn guy didnt know that so he sold them while labeling them as pure. As such, the clone Nevil got that was labeled NL5 was really NL5 x NL2. Nevil said he eventually got the pure NL5, Greg said Nevil never did. To understand the truth, it would require talking about substance abuse problems and other histories of not being honest about lineage (like using Mullum line without exposing that truth) which I dont feel like doing.

The pure NL5 clone is still around, but its called Pez since everyone and their mother has an NL5 cut thats actually NL5xNL2. Pez was going around on a Washington forum that went through a couple name changes since I was on, and subsequently booted from, there
If you look at Pez, its much more sativa than the NL5xNL2 thats called NL5

Unfortunately, it seems Greg tells different people different stories depending on how he feels about them.

Having read Tom’s article on his business page at agseedco, it looks like its reiterating what Nevil said on the forums and not what Greg told specific people that are in the veteran community.

Honestly, I had no interest in NL because my experience with it was likely the NL2 hybrid and was too narcotic for me. I only got into its history when I was one of 5 to get genetics from an old BOEL chemist and Greg hit me up to tell me its the old Hawaiian. So, not my pig, not my farm.

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#101

Great info. Thank you

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#102

Fantastic info! Thanks for sharing!

That fits a lot of what I’ve read over the years.

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#103

been eyeballing that one, i know the prices arent steep for the work that went into em, but its more than i can just pull up and spend on a whim right now, gotta finish this boat and then ill hopefully have more seed money, haha.

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#104

Has anyone been successful going to the crickets and cicadas website?

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#105

I’m in the late planning stages of my first grow and am going to include Crickets and Cicadas in the mix. This has been a great thread to wind through.

I was late to the game with the newest C&C drop. All that seems left of it is the OG Kush x Puck bx1 which I’m going to pick up so I don’t miss out. What’s the lineage of the OG Kush cut used in this?

The description on the Seeds Here Now website is informative but doesn’t discuss genetic lines. I’ve enjoyed Bob discussing his Puck genetics on pod casts. No doubt whatever the source of the OG Kush it’s legit though.

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Introduce Yourself @OG (Part 2)
#106

It’s my opinion that Bob is in the tightest of tight circles of growers/preservationists and breeders. I think that cut of OG Kush is as legit as they come, especially if he’s using it to breed. I vaguely remember him mentioning it on one of his pot cast interviews but I can’t remember which one. He appears in 3 of them, the latest being the breeders award episode if you want to go back. Either way, think about all the OG cuts he must be able to get his hands on, if he’s keeping that one around and breeding with it you know it’s going to be damn good.

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#107

Whole heartedly agree @NorthNorthNugs! He seems like a good guy before being a principled breeder. I’ll have to go back and see if I missed some info on that OG Kush. Looking forward to figuring it out. I also thought the interview I heard (Pot Cast maybe?) where he briefly discusses cacti and his collection of it shows a deep interest in growing plants period…

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#108

Ya for sure! He states multiple times how he just wants to make sure these genetics stick around and how he wants to see what other people will do with that and what they will create. You can definitely tell he has a deep passion for it.

I could be wrong about this, but I seem to remember him talking about the OG Kush cut and saying he didn’t really know the lineage of it but that where he sourced it from is legit and that it’s really good, so that’s why he kept it. I’m going to have to go back and listen to see if I can catch it now lol

I’m almost pretty sure I remember him laughing about how he really didn’t know about the lineage but that it was really good. I also seem to remember him saying in the comment section of his Instagram that the OG Kush x Puck crosses were some of the most narcotic/couch lock of the crosses when someone asked about it specifically.

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#109

Bob is on Duke’s 3rd YouTube video… hot of the grill. :pancakes::cricket::cricket::beetle::bug::ant::spider::mosquito:🪲🪳

:evergreen_tree:

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#110

Bob just got some of NLGreg’s pure NL5 seeds.
Greg had told me pure NL5 seeds rarely got out and Nevil never got the pure seedline.
So, Im expecting something huge.
I really wanna cross that NL5 line with my BOEL Hawaiian for a Hawaiian Sativa BX

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#111

Was lucky enough to scoop multiple packs of puck bc2. Taken cuts of everything but this one is looking the least hairy. We will see how she smokes soon! Definitely going to f2 but I’m not trying to compete with Bob so sometime in the future I’d be down to share.

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#112

Looks awesome @Cutkeeper. If you were lucky enough to get a couple packs of the Puck BC2, luck must be on your side :grinning:. I’ve heard some talk of the hairless pheno. Looks like you may have gotten one of them.

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#113

What’s this all about and why are these more desirable? Haven’t done much research on The Puck back crosses yet but I have a pack of 88G13HP x Puck BC1.

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#114

I don’t know if they are more desirable or not. I heard Duke mention it the other night on a benefit auction he was running on IG…where a pack of Puck BC3 went for $500. I haven’t listened to his podcast with Bob yet. Maybe they talk about it.

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#115

Shit… .lol… I forgot I had bananaghan, and goldghani…duh…lol

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#116

Thanks man, Id been trying to find crosses containing the puck for a while, so being able to score multiple packs was a blessing indeed. I’m hunting the other pack at the moment but she does look good.

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#117

I guess Im hoping the hairless trait Brings other desirable traits from the mother, since the puck was a hairless pheno as well.

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#118

I want the hairless pheno because it’s beautiful, it’s the one Bob hyped up, and hairs taste bad imo. You ever sparked a bowl of hairs only? I have and I can’t forget that taste, now I taste it in some strains

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#119

Whoa that’s super cool, I wonder if fewer hairs would make it harder to make seeds from it or not?

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