Dark Sparks with Mr.Sparkle : Growing 2019

Day 48 / 7

The seedlings are gonna be getting big quite soon so may need to chop the littlest one which also seems furthest along just to free up some space and a shuffle.

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I see a few little ones that can go, snip snip :scissors: :seedling:

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Lol not yet even for this notorious chopper, couple did get some crinkles going on but they did get hit with a high low high feed which made them all go a little wonky, so i’ll be waiting awhile before i make any decisions on what stays or goes.

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Mr. S on his way to the grow cabinet looking for the “crinkles” and “brooms”…:+1:

Homer Bunyan…:grin:

Peace
DaFozz

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Lol pretty much.

out of the seedlings though only 6 of them will possibly show the crinkle state, and only 3 the broom, as 4 of the others ive never run before and the 2 left are all different genetics.

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I think the more involved I have become with growing Cannabis, thanks to yourself and others, I am beginning to see the benefits of culling “weaker” or “undesirable” traits… I don’t look at it as wasting an opportunity or time so much, as it makes logical sense in this respect to make the most of time and space if you can…

I guess that is where experience in picking up these traits makes the decision easier. I am thankful for the seeds you provided me, because good and bad, my first Auto run gave me a better perspective and what to look for and the end results… A good education IMO…

Not to mention that citrusy smell… I almost want to gnaw away at those buds when I smell them…lol

Peace
DaFozz

p.s. I will need your advice on a couple new ones I am unsure of…

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Yeah exactly, but guess one thing to consider is seeds do cost quite a bit when purchased where typically one will grow out whatever they get because they don’t want to just throw away money persay, but that also sets up that mind set of growing everything out regardless. So in the counter side of getting a decent amount of free seeds or having a supply of your own where one doesn’t have that attached or sunk cost to them, which make it easy to do selections and look at it in the way of keeping the best and tossing the rest for efficiency and potential end results.

and will do, and i’ve been watching just can’t tell yet on a couple suspect ones, crinkles are easy once you know the signs, brooms you just have to grow out and don’t know till 4 weeks in unfortunately.

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I certainly do consider the costs involved with seeds, as well as the prolific amount of breeders out there. It is certainly advantageous if you have the ability to experiment with breeding, pollination, where you can eventually supply your own seed, and work with crosses that interest you on a personal level…

I am hoping to get to that point eventually, but not in a hurry… Too much to learn to do it properly, but I am getting there… It’s feels like a hobby, but it is much more than that, as I would like to get to a point where I feel comfortable knowing that the selections I make are for the right reasons.

I certainly do appreciate the help you are willing to offer, it makes the process much smoother…

Peace
DaFozz

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Learning from those who have learned the hard way makes it easier :wink: forsure. Lol

Will say though a lot of the stuff i have learned so far growing or say pairings and such i wouldn’t have known till i had done it. Kinda those "oh now i get it why ___ = ___ " sorta moments, and still learning every grow.

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Thanks Mr. Man, kinda nice having that proverbial “angel on the shoulder”…lol. I am thinking I see it a bit on 1 of The Fuzz and Easy D, and I will post better pictures soon, just not tonight, as I think the Tallboys and the Skywalker OG are finally doing their job today…

Peace
DaFozz

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Well tonight decided to say bye bye to the little one, it was getting there but i called its time tonight, plant wasn’t doing much and pistils were decently going orange and dieing, it had ambers on the tips and cloudy elsewhere else apart from clears on the lower or inner shaded bits. Personal preference is to run them a bit longer and let the nutrients taper out at the end as they show it, which they are all doing now, but this one just wanted to be further along than the rest.

And i think i may be wrong and its actually day 52-53 for this plant, i have to look into it by checking my old photos

I said nah not yet this morning, but you know which ones they are gonna happen to.

Basically run down the left side of the first three rows, which each are there own stain. and the back two on the right, the solo should be the weaker plant by what im seeing already “different crinkle patterns” which that back row is sour crinkle anyways

Bet you can Pick out the DarkSpark/DDf2’s row

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When I first met @Mr.Sparkle I had been growing 11 seeds I had purchased online that cost me $150 and all went hermy on me.

The seeds he sent me I looked at them as though they were $15 seeds. I couldn’t wrap my head around culling a plant or being selective. They were the best plants I had ever grown.

Lots of people have sent me seeds since and I still have difficulties sometimes even bringing myself to get them wet. I think because I wanna do the breeders/senders proud and don’t want to be disrespectful by “wasting” what they’ve been so kind to give me, as I’m so grateful for the opportunity to have them.

But @Mr.Sparkle seems to get more annoyed when I dont cull the weak so I’m trying to break the habit lol

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Funny you mention that, because my sentiments are similar…lol

I don’t mean any disrespect with regards to seeds, as that is how I regard any seed anyone takes the time to send my way… I respect the time it has taken to develop these shared seeds, and will try and give them the best opportunity I can.

Peace
DaFozz

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Man dude. You summed it up. A humble man I am. I realized you can paint a turd, but in the end it’s still a piece of shit. I can’t wait to grow some good meds. Hopefully the NL n @Sebring Maui Sunshine should hold me over. I want sparks lol. All purple n lovely haha. What beautiful genetics. Always a pleasure sir. Don’t get too stoned we need guidance back on here. :grinning: Later bro.

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I just may have a different take on things now, maybe it’s has come in time or where my own current perspective has taken me. but from what i know and we all can see the seeds im making aren’t perfect, and realistically they won’t be im growing out of a closet, but consider “what is perfect” and does it actually matter.

See how can i put this into words in a short manner… Growing in a limited space we can only grow so many plants, there is no way around that other than the obvious, and we only have so many grow cycles in whatever time span you pick. It’s limited to a point and it always will be. See to me being that its limited, my thought is why not make it the best you can.

One may get joy out of seeing all the differences and the surprises that come from a seed good and bad, i know i do, but i also know that certain things bring me more joy in the process or will be better in the long run, such as healthy, nice smelling, stable, cool looking, good growth, possible stable interesting mutations if its those factors yeah count me in, but if the opposite is there, such as being small, struggling, bad smelling, bad structure, unstable detrimental mutations, or just bland or lackluster, Now sure if it’s to learn something, or to try something new, or is serving a purpose im all for it, but if it’s not worth my “limited” time, space, or energy its time to move on.

So reason i may seem harsh with selections and stuff is i just would rather be doing stuff that i really enjoy and have excitement in than stuff that doesn’t or becomes a burden.

Im here for the fun and doing the best i can.

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Now say we jump back to say the Dark Sparks

That crinkle mutation, or mutlipolate, or growth mutation just burn it, if you want to learn why they are bad grow them out, but there is a reason why i suggest cutting them early is because once you see it once or a couple times you’ll know, they are worth learning from but not finishing.

The broom or “willow” like characteristic is cool to grow out just to see. Horrible yield like really bad, a mess, super lanky but it’s just interesting, only reason i recommend people pulling that is its hard to manage or grow well, you may have space or be able to handle it, but say new growers don’t even touch it, your time is spent better elsewhere and on plants that are more forgiving , or can yield or teach more.

Which leaves the rest whether good, better, or worse traits if selections are made you should come out with some decent bud in the end, if grown well quite a bit of it, and id rather see people succeed and get good harvest and grows under their belt than throwing too much at them at once. The options are there to learn but why not make it the best :wink:

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From my limited experience, this is sage advice…

Peace
Dafozz

As an example, what would you choose as the best quality to look for when choosing between breeding quality…

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Hey Sparkle…

I just wanted to say thanks for that…

Just in time for my garden…I will shoot you some pics when I have it rockin…

What a great place this place is…You guys are all great peeps…

Regards,

K.

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I’ll grab some pictures over the next couple of days and weeks of the seedlings if im actually capable of capturing the things i see.

But taking into consideration that “limited” factor, whatever traits that will grow and make the healthiest best plants possible is what im after, i don’t have or want to spend time to grow shitty plants.

So say things like structured leaf growth the pattern or style they grow in to me doesn’t matter that much till later, like say serrated edges, to broad leafs, or ones with long stems, so long as they grow in a healthy repeatable pattern, that’s step one when I’m being diligent.

For example in the picture below the top row is the Sour Crinkles, if you zoom in the plant on the right you can see a crinkle starting on the base of the single leaflets where the veins are sunk but the center area between them is puffed out like say a leaf of romaine lettuce or cabbage, one thats because its still growing but also that its “possibly” just a trait for those genetics, now the pattern it does is repeatable and looks the same on the other leaves indicating that it “may” grow uniform. Now compare that to its sister beside it to the left, it has a similar lettuce cabbage like leaf structure, but the pattern is alot more random and also with sections/dots that look yellow where the growth kinda faltered, now saying that these did get a misting so some could and is possible water droplet light lensing damage, but that random spotting is happening more on the newer sections of the leaves where when i sprayed they hadn’t grown yet, so this randomness to me indicates a non uniform growing plant, that potentially has some detrimental characteristics, as you typically will get sections that grow faster or slower depending causing a leaf to buckle, warp, or mutate into a non uniform pattern, such as the more sensitive Dark Sparks that throw claws where the center of the leaf grows faster than the outside.

If we move to the second from the top row which are TDC’s “Think Dark and Creamy” ((Think Different x Dark Devil) x Cream Mandarine)) if wondering but the left side plant looks healthier mind you they were minutes away from night time and were shutting down getting ready for it, but the left side plant if you look at the base of the singles, they have a pronounced curved up lip to them that again is un uniform and if you look at the bottom new “triplet” leaf, it actually isn’t one, its a triplet where one of the side fingers has merged into the main center section making it effectively a two bladed leaf, now if the other side showed this in some discernible repeatable fashion id be fine with it, but if the base edges on the singles are random and im getting a single two bladed leaf where the other is a triple this “may” indicate future issues with leaf growth.

The DDf2’s at the bottom of the picture same thing in that the left hand one is throwing a two bladed “triplet” on the bottom, now these share obviously a similar parent to the TDC’s as that two bladed trait comes from a bad Dark Devil Pairing done previously but all would of came from the original genetics i started with.

After base growth characteristics next is what structures, smells, looks, and production will be the “best” at least in my mind for what i want or works for me, and ill dive into that a bit deeper as we go along.

But consider really we don’t know what we will end up with till it is grown out or the seeds made from pairing are.

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They do all have uniform special characteristics a light green to a row, just to slightly bit darker like you said the two bladed leaf those are things that definitely stand out it’s cooler that you can run them and you recognize those traits off the breakI mean obviously I can see the difference between two strains I have but you’ve been breeding these so you know this smells fresh, cured, smoked that’s the good shit. Do any of them have any pronounce Citrus notes or anything that really sticks out to you in your genetics? Any medical properties? Dig for it…:wink: take it easy I got to get some sleep let some of this knowledge sink in. Be safe brother
-J

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