Dessert Delight – The “Sterile” Strain That Refuses to Herm but Produces a Few Surprise Seeds from Reversal

[DanielGrowPhotos]

Hey Overgrow Fam,

I wanted to share some wild findings about my strain, Dessert Delight. On 9/11/24, I started reversing 12 Dessert Delight plants using EliteXelite. The goal was to generate pollen and see if this strain could be used to hit some other plants, but the results were shocking: not a single grain of pollen was produced, and none of the plants flipped afterward developed any seeds.

For context, I flipped everything else I wanted to hit with the reversal a week later, on 9/18/24. It’s now 10/24/24, and I’ve been pruning out my Gary Paytons for the worm bin, expecting to see seeds, but there wasn’t a single one. Dessert Delight is completely sterile. It can’t herm, it can’t reverse—it’s like MAC from Capulator, maybe even more sterile. I’ve seen someone get a few seeds from a MAC reversal, but this strain is giving me absolutely nothing.

Just for a little background: When I made Dessert Delight, I reversed AJ Sour Diesel in three different tents. In one tent, the AJ produced 3 seeds, in another, 30 seeds, and in the last one, 300 seeds. So I went into this hoping to see some results based on my experience. But with Dessert Delight, I reversed 12 plants and got zero results. Crazy, right?

Sour Diesel is already known as one of the hardest strains to reverse after MAC, but Dessert Delight seems to take sterility to the next level. It cannot reverse or herm, no matter what.

I figured this would be important for anyone working with this strain or something similar. Drop your thoughts, questions, or experiences if you’ve encountered something like this before!

Overgrow the World

– Purple Flamethrower

[splinter7]

i have one like this too. it will take pollen, but I can’t get it to herm or reverse.

[DanielGrowPhotos]

Which cultivar is that you speak of? And also do you notice that on offspring that it makes very stable offspring too?

[splinter7]

It’s red hot cookies:

i haven’t popped the offspring (x Lemon Alien)…it didn’t yield a ton of seeds.

I really like it. it’s a slightly sativa leaning hybrid. super social. great bag appeal. smells like tangie with some spice. smokes tangie, floral, skunky with a tiny bit of ethnic food or pepper showing up. It’s probably commercially viable around f49, maybe earlier. at f38 it looks better than a lot of other buds at harvest. I chop at f61 or so usually, but i need more kick.

I have cuts for trade if anyone ever wants it. i almost lost this during a hurricane without power for 7 days. i just chopped up the dying plant and it cloned. also, if you don’t let it soak in rooting gel it take nearly a month to clone…with gel it’s 8 days in an ezcloner.

[DanielGrowPhotos]

I am happy that you still have your plant that you really like & that it’s not lost. I’m contemplating offering but here it goes, I got this male named Floyd it’s Grape Breath From Thug Pug , paid $400 the first pack $250 the second pack, found a winner male & female in the first pack but no winners in the second pack. Shits the real deal grapes , lots of grape ain’t real grapes but this dead ass is spot on to anything it hits. Floyd/Grape Breath #11 males genetics are Bright Moments by GGG which is grape stomper x grape stomper OG then crossed with thug pugs Studly which is Mendo breath f2 with award winning and predictable results. In a few weeks I should have cuts rooted I just took them yesterday. This is the same male that made the Delilah which is dessert delight x Floyd (first dessert delight cross) that Imagenetics ran off with after promising running the whole stock which is why I don’t have Delilah today , but I can remake it because luckily Jamal is a homie of mine who keped the Floyd on lock who was the last person left with it on earth and sent it back and now I’m the only one with it on earth and I was thanking heavens Jamal had this. I’ll send it on the house tho. Cuz I feel the same way you would of if you lost your red hot cookies & that can be a dope colab mix. Rock on for not losing your red hot cookies bro your a warrior. I’m not into Tangie at all but I’ll keep it in mind incase some people I talk to like the Terp I’ll offer it to them on trade for u so u can get some new cuts & so you know it’ll be in other places too if I run into anyone. But Floyd is especially known to enhance keepers and make them grapes. Ive been in the Bay Area just about my whole life & I’m Purple Flamethrower so this is basically my Studly Spewrite of the Bay Area with that grapes flavor. The best grapes I’ve ever smelled too top 3. Grandaddy Pluto & grape ape Humboldt cut hold the other top 2 grape terps for me

[splinter7]

that sounds really cool.
I’d have think about keeping a male around before i could take something like that. when i make seeds, they were always fem/reversed.
in the grape range, i grew an alien rock candy from seed that was bascially grape candy in smell/taste. some might call it foxy. i passed that cut out and I think I can still get hold of it, but ya, it wasn’t good enough for me to keep. though, some nights i wish I had it. the smoke was super thick and dopey.

if you find someone that’s likes that tang maybe we can work it.

[DanielGrowPhotos]

How many reversals have you done? That’s impressive that you only have ever done fem cuz tbh that shit is something that takes more knowledge and practice and all that shit. Do you got any tips on reversals cuz I have no idea how Clearwater gets fuckin pounds of pollen he could be selling fem pollen pounds instead of packs. I wanna do that lol. This is only my second reversal

[splinter7]

not many. i am not a breeder at all, but i did make my own sts.
way back, they didn’t have cs or sts.
so long as you could figure out how to herm a difficult to herm plant, you could get solid fems seeds. i know it’s frowned upon in a lot of circles, and probably should be today, but there are lots of reasons that method was valid. lots of good stock comes out of worse situations.

if someone had fem pollen from good cuts for sale, i could get down with that. i guess i saw it a few times for sale online, but i wasn’t able to deal with it then.

[joheimgrohen]

I’m presuming the Red Hot Cookies came from Sweet Seeds… right? I’ve grown them once before and have intents on trying for seed with an STS Reversal on a clone. Didn’t know anything about cloning when I grew them last…4 years ago…? So no direct experience with that particular strain but, I did just try a self pollination with their Tropicana Poison auto XL and everything was looking beautiful but not a bit of pollen. Only strain I’ve had fail to produce pollen. My G13 Labs auto Froyo self and cross went smooth as butter (netted damned near 10,000[not a typo] seeds). I’ve failed at reversals before but that was on me. This is the first time I’ve encountered “The Dustless”. And now we have 2 dustless strains from them. Have they cracked the sterility gene over at Sweet Seeds?

[Itslegalnow]

That’s some fire right there. gorgeous looking bud structure!

[Itslegalnow]

Nice, Bright moments is something i’d like to grow at some point. Where in the bay do you reside. I grew up in Mountain View.

[DanielGrowPhotos]

I grew up in Mountain View too shoot me a private message lmao

[Monst3rbean]

I’ve had a lot of reversals not produce pollen.

It’s always been a roll of the dice for me.

Some pants do, some don’t.

Plants that have, produced in various amounts. Seemingly anything from 100% of stamens, down to less than 1%

I’ve had quite a few plants produce pollen but wouldn’t release it. Having to manually damage each stamen.

Have only came a crossed sterile pollen once or twice

A surprising moment for me, I did have a reversal that seemed to be another pollenless dud. I lazily left her reversed branches alone. I kept flowering her out as there still were untreated tops on the plant. Come week 8-9, those reversed sections started dumping loads of pollen.

I was thinking the plants natural instinct to go into survival mode come late flower might have supercharged the previous reversal.

[splinter7]

i wondered the same. i don’t know anyone that has s1 the RHC. I can’t recall the company, but there are a bunch of RHC fem crosses that came out maybe a year ago. I presume they reversed the RHC and hit other plants with it. the RHC is also supposed to be difficult to clone. on ICMAG, there is someone complaining about it in the RHC thread.

[DanielGrowPhotos]

I spoke too soon! Even tho I didn’t get anything that I can see on any buds & none on any of the lowers I pruned, I do see one seed start on this Sundae XTC #3 this is huge! Cuz I was sure I wasn’t getting shit. My buds are a month away from being hella fucking ripe but damn that’s crazy. It took 12 plants and I see a seed growing. So far I only see 1 seed in the entire garden and buds are ripening so at least I got a seed hopefully a few of them

[DanielGrowPhotos]

So my conclusion for Dessert Delight is that it doesn’t reverse easily at all. It’s on the sterile side rather than the potent side of not being sterile. I still don’t see any seeds in the Gary Payton tent at all—not even one seed. What I was thinking is that this is kind of like what happened when I reversed AJ. In one tent, I only got three seeds. So even though I put four reversed plants in that tent with the Gary’s, I probably got something similar because I really don’t see even one seed. When I was pruning out the Gary’s and didn’t see one seed, that’s when I thought Dessert Delight is probably seedless because I know she doesn’t herm no matter what.

Then I looked in the other tents where Sundae XTC #3, Sundae XTC #8, Super Sour Diesel Dropout Bear, and Tokyo Sunset are. I don’t see any on the Tokyo Sunset, but on all three of the others, I do. Also, in the Dessert Delight and AJ Sour Diesel tents, I put some Grape Sundae phenos I’m hunting on the ground in cup carriers, and they got pollinated, making only one seed in a couple of them—so far, at least, which is pretty much what it’s going to be since they’re getting ripe, unless there’s one hidden in the middle of a bud somewhere.

But when I looked at the Gary Payton tent, pruned it out, and saw no seeds, I thought it was sterile because I put four reversals in there, which should have meant different amounts of pollen on each one. So I don’t know how I didn’t get any seeds in the Gary tent that I could see, but I got a few seeds in Sundae XTC #8, Sundae XTC #3, and in the Super Sour Diesel. I do see a few seeds—not a ton, but more like what AJ Sour Diesel produces.

This Dessert Delight is as hard to reverse as AJ Sour Diesel now, because the AJ produced 300 seeds in one tent, about 30 seeds in another, and three seeds in another tent, with one plant of reversal in each. What I was thinking is that this might even be more sterile than that, because I’m not even getting that. Like with the Gorilla Glue I reversed AJ on when I made Dessert Delight at the same time, that one got seeded with about 150 seeds and the reversed AJ was leaning on it.

But in this case, even though I reversed 12 plants, I don’t see that on any of them no matter which one is leaning on what. I have reversal plants leaning on budded plants, and I still don’t see them fully seeded. All I see is a seed here and there.