Dessert Delight – The “Sterile” Strain That Refuses to Herm but Produces a Few Surprise Seeds from Reversal

[DanielGrowPhotos]

Hey Overgrow Fam,

I wanted to share some wild findings about my strain, Dessert Delight. On 9/11/24, I started reversing 12 Dessert Delight plants using EliteXelite. The goal was to generate pollen and see if this strain could be used to hit some other plants, but the results were shocking: not a single grain of pollen was produced, and none of the plants flipped afterward developed any seeds.

For context, I flipped everything else I wanted to hit with the reversal a week later, on 9/18/24. It’s now 10/24/24, and I’ve been pruning out my Gary Paytons for the worm bin, expecting to see seeds, but there wasn’t a single one. Dessert Delight is completely sterile. It can’t herm, it can’t reverse—it’s like MAC from Capulator, maybe even more sterile. I’ve seen someone get a few seeds from a MAC reversal, but this strain is giving me absolutely nothing.

Just for a little background: When I made Dessert Delight, I reversed AJ Sour Diesel in three different tents. In one tent, the AJ produced 3 seeds, in another, 30 seeds, and in the last one, 300 seeds. So I went into this hoping to see some results based on my experience. But with Dessert Delight, I reversed 12 plants and got zero results. Crazy, right?

Sour Diesel is already known as one of the hardest strains to reverse after MAC, but Dessert Delight seems to take sterility to the next level. It cannot reverse or herm, no matter what.

I figured this would be important for anyone working with this strain or something similar. Drop your thoughts, questions, or experiences if you’ve encountered something like this before!

Overgrow the World

– Purple Flamethrower

[splinter7]

i have one like this too. it will take pollen, but I can’t get it to herm or reverse.

[DanielGrowPhotos]

Which cultivar is that you speak of? And also do you notice that on offspring that it makes very stable offspring too?

[splinter7]

It’s red hot cookies:

i haven’t popped the offspring (x Lemon Alien)…it didn’t yield a ton of seeds.

I really like it. it’s a slightly sativa leaning hybrid. super social. great bag appeal. smells like tangie with some spice. smokes tangie, floral, skunky with a tiny bit of ethnic food or pepper showing up. It’s probably commercially viable around f49, maybe earlier. at f38 it looks better than a lot of other buds at harvest. I chop at f61 or so usually, but i need more kick.

I have cuts for trade if anyone ever wants it. i almost lost this during a hurricane without power for 7 days. i just chopped up the dying plant and it cloned. also, if you don’t let it soak in rooting gel it take nearly a month to clone…with gel it’s 8 days in an ezcloner.

[DanielGrowPhotos]

I am happy that you still have your plant that you really like & that it’s not lost. I’m contemplating offering but here it goes, I got this male named Floyd it’s Grape Breath From Thug Pug , paid $400 the first pack $250 the second pack, found a winner male & female in the first pack but no winners in the second pack. Shits the real deal grapes , lots of grape ain’t real grapes but this dead ass is spot on to anything it hits. Floyd/Grape Breath #11 males genetics are Bright Moments by GGG which is grape stomper x grape stomper OG then crossed with thug pugs Studly which is Mendo breath f2 with award winning and predictable results. In a few weeks I should have cuts rooted I just took them yesterday. This is the same male that made the Delilah which is dessert delight x Floyd (first dessert delight cross) that Imagenetics ran off with after promising running the whole stock which is why I don’t have Delilah today , but I can remake it because luckily Jamal is a homie of mine who keped the Floyd on lock who was the last person left with it on earth and sent it back and now I’m the only one with it on earth and I was thanking heavens Jamal had this. I’ll send it on the house tho. Cuz I feel the same way you would of if you lost your red hot cookies & that can be a dope colab mix. Rock on for not losing your red hot cookies bro your a warrior. I’m not into Tangie at all but I’ll keep it in mind incase some people I talk to like the Terp I’ll offer it to them on trade for u so u can get some new cuts & so you know it’ll be in other places too if I run into anyone. But Floyd is especially known to enhance keepers and make them grapes. Ive been in the Bay Area just about my whole life & I’m Purple Flamethrower so this is basically my Studly Spewrite of the Bay Area with that grapes flavor. The best grapes I’ve ever smelled too top 3. Grandaddy Pluto & grape ape Humboldt cut hold the other top 2 grape terps for me

[splinter7]

that sounds really cool.
I’d have think about keeping a male around before i could take something like that. when i make seeds, they were always fem/reversed.
in the grape range, i grew an alien rock candy from seed that was bascially grape candy in smell/taste. some might call it foxy. i passed that cut out and I think I can still get hold of it, but ya, it wasn’t good enough for me to keep. though, some nights i wish I had it. the smoke was super thick and dopey.

if you find someone that’s likes that tang maybe we can work it.

[DanielGrowPhotos]

How many reversals have you done? That’s impressive that you only have ever done fem cuz tbh that shit is something that takes more knowledge and practice and all that shit. Do you got any tips on reversals cuz I have no idea how Clearwater gets fuckin pounds of pollen he could be selling fem pollen pounds instead of packs. I wanna do that lol. This is only my second reversal

[splinter7]

not many. i am not a breeder at all, but i did make my own sts.
way back, they didn’t have cs or sts.
so long as you could figure out how to herm a difficult to herm plant, you could get solid fems seeds. i know it’s frowned upon in a lot of circles, and probably should be today, but there are lots of reasons that method was valid. lots of good stock comes out of worse situations.

if someone had fem pollen from good cuts for sale, i could get down with that. i guess i saw it a few times for sale online, but i wasn’t able to deal with it then.

[joheimgrohen]

I’m presuming the Red Hot Cookies came from Sweet Seeds… right? I’ve grown them once before and have intents on trying for seed with an STS Reversal on a clone. Didn’t know anything about cloning when I grew them last…4 years ago…? So no direct experience with that particular strain but, I did just try a self pollination with their Tropicana Poison auto XL and everything was looking beautiful but not a bit of pollen. Only strain I’ve had fail to produce pollen. My G13 Labs auto Froyo self and cross went smooth as butter (netted damned near 10,000[not a typo] seeds). I’ve failed at reversals before but that was on me. This is the first time I’ve encountered “The Dustless”. And now we have 2 dustless strains from them. Have they cracked the sterility gene over at Sweet Seeds?

[Itslegalnow]

That’s some fire right there. gorgeous looking bud structure!

[Itslegalnow]

Nice, Bright moments is something i’d like to grow at some point. Where in the bay do you reside. I grew up in Mountain View.

[DanielGrowPhotos]

I grew up in Mountain View too shoot me a private message lmao

[Monst3rbean]

I’ve had a lot of reversals not produce pollen.

It’s always been a roll of the dice for me.

Some pants do, some don’t.

Plants that have, produced in various amounts. Seemingly anything from 100% of stamens, down to less than 1%

I’ve had quite a few plants produce pollen but wouldn’t release it. Having to manually damage each stamen.

Have only came a crossed sterile pollen once or twice

A surprising moment for me, I did have a reversal that seemed to be another pollenless dud. I lazily left her reversed branches alone. I kept flowering her out as there still were untreated tops on the plant. Come week 8-9, those reversed sections started dumping loads of pollen.

I was thinking the plants natural instinct to go into survival mode come late flower might have supercharged the previous reversal.

[splinter7]

i wondered the same. i don’t know anyone that has s1 the RHC. I can’t recall the company, but there are a bunch of RHC fem crosses that came out maybe a year ago. I presume they reversed the RHC and hit other plants with it. the RHC is also supposed to be difficult to clone. on ICMAG, there is someone complaining about it in the RHC thread.

[DanielGrowPhotos]

I spoke too soon! Even tho I didn’t get anything that I can see on any buds & none on any of the lowers I pruned, I do see one seed start on this Sundae XTC #3 this is huge! Cuz I was sure I wasn’t getting shit. My buds are a month away from being hella fucking ripe but damn that’s crazy. It took 12 plants and I see a seed growing. So far I only see 1 seed in the entire garden and buds are ripening so at least I got a seed hopefully a few of them

[DanielGrowPhotos]

So my conclusion for Dessert Delight is that it doesn’t reverse easily at all. It’s on the sterile side rather than the potent side of not being sterile. I still don’t see any seeds in the Gary Payton tent at all—not even one seed. What I was thinking is that this is kind of like what happened when I reversed AJ. In one tent, I only got three seeds. So even though I put four reversed plants in that tent with the Gary’s, I probably got something similar because I really don’t see even one seed. When I was pruning out the Gary’s and didn’t see one seed, that’s when I thought Dessert Delight is probably seedless because I know she doesn’t herm no matter what.

Then I looked in the other tents where Sundae XTC #3, Sundae XTC #8, Super Sour Diesel Dropout Bear, and Tokyo Sunset are. I don’t see any on the Tokyo Sunset, but on all three of the others, I do. Also, in the Dessert Delight and AJ Sour Diesel tents, I put some Grape Sundae phenos I’m hunting on the ground in cup carriers, and they got pollinated, making only one seed in a couple of them—so far, at least, which is pretty much what it’s going to be since they’re getting ripe, unless there’s one hidden in the middle of a bud somewhere.

But when I looked at the Gary Payton tent, pruned it out, and saw no seeds, I thought it was sterile because I put four reversals in there, which should have meant different amounts of pollen on each one. So I don’t know how I didn’t get any seeds in the Gary tent that I could see, but I got a few seeds in Sundae XTC #8, Sundae XTC #3, and in the Super Sour Diesel. I do see a few seeds—not a ton, but more like what AJ Sour Diesel produces.

This Dessert Delight is as hard to reverse as AJ Sour Diesel now, because the AJ produced 300 seeds in one tent, about 30 seeds in another, and three seeds in another tent, with one plant of reversal in each. What I was thinking is that this might even be more sterile than that, because I’m not even getting that. Like with the Gorilla Glue I reversed AJ on when I made Dessert Delight at the same time, that one got seeded with about 150 seeds and the reversed AJ was leaning on it.

But in this case, even though I reversed 12 plants, I don’t see that on any of them no matter which one is leaning on what. I have reversal plants leaning on budded plants, and I still don’t see them fully seeded. All I see is a seed here and there.

[DanielGrowPhotos]

A lotta people tell me this : #1 I need more of a following #2 I need a grand opening #3 I need to be known for something that people know exactly what to expect from me. Since this did work & even tho it is a super hard plant to reverse but it does make seed & I’m glad I did learn from my aj reversal by now putting 4 reversals in each 2x4 it helped with this typa sterile type plant. This reminds me so much of the aj reversal for so many reasons I’m liking how this is going I know I got a handful of seeds but also very good bud because it’s not seeded heavily at all! So all I’m trying to reverse in my head for the next however long I decide is dessert delight. I have to write on a white board every cultivars strengths & weaknesses male & female. Including how offspring works. And I’m just gonna run with dessert delight. It’s trademark pending for me right now I should own the name soon. There’s a reason I did that. I see this one long term. Decades to come. So since I have a Nugsmasher I am taking these plants all 3 weeks past ripe so the seeds get fat & then I’ll dry it out like crazy crisp & then break it all down and schuck it in a seed schucker & smash the crumbled flower. My plan is to send it to a chocolatier homie of mine who makes these delicious bars they’re so good and he’ll infuse them strong asf, and it’ll be called , Chocolate Delight just gotta get mockups and packaging and I’ll be cranking out golden ticket bars outa my reversal seed production tents. So this is my plan to make stable genetics and something people can expect from me, cuz #1 dessert delight can’t herm & #2 it’s the best I ever had & #3 it’s a way to make really great edibles professionally

[DanielGrowPhotos]

I wanted to get a picture of the reversed Dessert Delight day 61 I can straight up sell this on the block and people would be happy asfuck

[AMunkFromCupertino]

Thanks for giving me a cut of Dessert Delight to grow outside this past year, @DanielGrowPhotos

I certainly don’t have the experience with this one that you do, but here was my experience with it as best as I can put into words…

I got two clones in the Spring (May?) and got them rooted in rockwool cubes. Once rooted, they went outdoors under an awning, in 1 gallon Fox Farm Ocean Forest plastic pots. They took their time getting adjusted to the outdoors but my understanding is they are typically grown indoors… so that’s to be expected. I gradually gave them more sunlight as the season progressed and didn’t feed them any nutrients other than a bit of calmag every couple weeks. Both specimens seemed to not really uptake much water and didn’t show signs of any nutrient deficiencies. If I wasn’t consuming my attention with other things, I would be searching for the fast forward button on these ladies cause they take their time.

They eventually started filling out during the July/Aug transitional stretch, but this coincided with my running low on plant space out back so I moved them to the side of my property, with several others. I also took this opportunity to spray the smaller plant with a gender reversal agent in hopes of getting some S1 seeds. None of the plants that were moved did very well. I ended up pulling them back into the other portion of the yard a couple weeks later but lost a few plants during a brutal heat wave, before they could be saved… and one of those was the smallest Delight.

The remaining specimen was partially shaded by the apple tree branch it was under, and finished up nicely in the last week of September. Since the original plan of getting S1 seeds was no longer in play, I pollinated this lady with a male, sativa leaning, Blue Dream. The male Blue Dream displayed gorgeous widely spaced node structure, impressive pollen production, and adaptability in extreme weather conditions. I figured this might help adapt the genetic line to the outdoors and improve speed of development (can’t go wrong with the Blue Dream mental effect). It will be interesting to see what comes of those seeds.

She remained remarkably unremarkable all the way until harvest. There wasn’t an excess of hairs, nor was it exceptionally frosty. It put off a faint scent in flower but was greatly overpowered by others around her. I found that she doesn’t advertise… more of the quiet type. If I’m being honest, my thoughts after hanging her up to dry were mostly how this plant would be discarded if judged completely on outward appearances.

After curing for roughly two weeks in glass jars…

Effects wise,…this one isn’t for those looking to get blasted into the next galaxy, and might be overlooked because of this, but my experience is that it may be just right for someone that appreciates the entire spectrum of effects cannabis offers. One might say it allows a channel of communication between the divine and the heart!

Scent wise,…slightly floral, with a background of petrol (like a gas can with the cap on). The effect sets in slowly, starting in the head and moving primarily to the body. It’s not a heavy body high, but more of a relaxed one that lets you still get around. Those with arthritis may find this helpful. I’d be curious to see if this strain makes a nice balm for such patients. I found it helpful for meditation, because of the effects… where it doesn’t dominate mentally and yet helps in allowing the body to fully relax. As someone who appreciates this, it’s super valuable to have in the toolbox.