Please share and describe your experiences with Archive. This is a thread for all posts about your Archive grows, buying seeds, strain recommendations, questions, trades, and showing your collections.
This is also the place to discuss other breeders working with Archive genetics, your homemade outcrosses of Archive’s strains, and other related topics.
I’ll start with Moonbow 112 and Ginger Tea review/grow:
So, im not an archive fan - cus I barely just grew my first plants, but i was surprised there is no thread discussing his/their work. I remember reading good stuff about archive and then going to check the price and said, fuck no… then, I got moonbow and ginger tea as a gift and:
(for conclusion just skip to the bottom)
Warning: they ALL got nanners. Its sausage fest on the bottom nugs at early flower. I was incredibly bummed out when I had to go thru 40 minutes of reviewing plants and snapping nanner clusters. Having said that, NO SEEDS ON ANY. I grew more confident when at week 7-8 there were no visible swollen bracts/calyx so I thought I would find a couple seeds hidden on the innerside… but no. none, on none of them. is infertility inheritable? (Isn’t that how they do commercial bananas?… I digress. edit: no, no it isnt)
The ginger teas had better structure in general - they grew medium to tall-ish , with tight buds, some with wider node spacing than others, but in general good spacing. Terpenes were on the citrus side, with two (#9 and #10) being practically twins in both shape and lemongrass scent and perhaps a bit of ginger with a gassy backend. The other three ranged from fruity to sweet with minor degrees of gas. High wise, they are very similar I was expecting a stonier high from the Face-off/MB75 maybe? But its actually pretty stimulating right from the beginning and it only wears out into a light relaxing mode towards the very tail-end. its a good potency daytime smoke.
The Moonbows were a little funny…. i noticed many mutations/stress on the fan leaves (not sure if they were just deformities caused by early veg stress or just inbreeding showing). While in flower they developed their scents gradually more complex (from just menthol/mint to adding sweetness, and then gas), then when dried they remained sweet and minty. Two of them were covered as fuck and smelled gassy, minty and sweet (not fruity, not candy… can’t really put my finger on it, but I looked at leafly and it said “pear” and I thought for once leafly was somewhat right) but the structure on them was very different, one was taller - like the ginger twins - with wider node spacing and denser nugs, the other one didnt really stretcht that much and had tighter nodes and less dense nugs. The other two, (#7) was a runtish plant short, bushy, leafy, with lots of lime on it, it just grew awful and (#2) was sweet, lime, and some other fruit, it was medium height, and not the stand out, but a very high quality plant. #1 was the stand out of the whole tent and it went to prove it on smoke as well. The moonbows in general were potent heady and stimulating and slowly faded into a heavier, “bodier” (if that make sense) stone/relaxation - but not necessarily couch lock, although perfect for just stoning out. if I had grown only one or two I prob wouldn’t be talking high of it but the moon bow #1 is stellar, with good density, good yield, good structure, vigorous, nice minty/complex sweet taste, great potent and balanced head/body high, and great resin quality.
So conclusion for those who don’t want to read all the above bullshit:
They get manners, no seeds - I repeat, none. It was interesting because if you lined them up together you can easily find common ground, but the far ends were very distinct both in scent and high with incredibly high quality, both in smoke and resin. The high on the better ginger teas was very up with some relaxation but very clear and it don’t wear you out at all with a complex lemongrass to fruity taste even in joints. The moon bows have a potent “heady” and stimulating effect that slowly turns into a comfortable body stone/relaxation with a delicate sweet, minty, gassy taste. a neat correlation I saw on both strains was: the taller the plant, the better it was.
Would I put out the cash myself for some “premium” Archive? its tough but, probably not (cus I dont carry that kind of cash for 1 pack). while most of them were high quality, in the end im thinking of keeping only 1 of each (#1 moonbow, and #9 or #10 -havent decided- of ginger tea). So if I consider that I usually find keeper plants from one $30-50 pack, and def from two packs… that’s still cheaper (and its not like the rest of the plants in a $45 pack aren’t worth growing, most packs have similar quality across too, just a bit higher variation)… and not to mention that ive also found plants this good in OG member seeds. What is mentionable is that If I had spent the money, id be happy with what I got but… ive also been as happy with much cheaper packs.
PS
I wonder if they (the moonbows at least) are good breeding material given their - as marketed - careful deeper breeding work. Either way, im really glad I was able to grow them, and I get to keep two/three unique excellent plants.
family photo (with ancient og bombing the pic on the back left)
better gingers:
better moonbows