Legitimate question. If one is using a true male to pollinate a female strain that has never stress hermied, will the offspring seed be true regulars? I am under the impression that 90% or better seeds from hermied plants are female seeds. So does the female carry the hermie gene? I recently used a male to pollinate a healthy strain and was hoping I didn’t catch the hermies…
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lol well you’re going to get a mess of answers. But I’ll tell you my experience. I’ve seen “true males” in lines that produce balls on females, and pistils on males in lines that I’ve never witnessed stamen (nanners) in females.
Take it for what you will. IME, having a “true male” is no guarantee of any stability in females, and neither is a male that pops some pistils.
Secondly, hermies in female seed populations is a result of poor feminization practices. I don’t think ethylene inhibition methods of producing female seeds is any more or less likely to produce hermaphrodites. However, stressing females to produce pollen might be. Another guess – but I think stress is an epigenetic factor that can cause intersex issues in seeds.
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I think about this question when I look at my males that come from hermaphrodite lines. I know the answer is that yes it’s in the genome.
Your specifically referring to the males showing some sign of a hermie? Or maybe 3 out of five males produced hermies prone offspring for instance?
I think about these questions and I wonder if were wasting our time trying to find answers but curiosity is a hungry we tend to all tend to want to satisfy at some time or another…
With so many different experiences voiced on this topic in the past I think all genomes are different and unique to a point in that regard; hence all the naming of strains.
So no and yes.
But I do think we should be examining the male pods and choosing the shortest, most un-banana looking males. You may see different shapes to the pods or other differences between males while some having “normal” looking pod shapes.
Who knows maybe some day we can test our cannabis genomes for the specific trait if it is indeed only one type of trait or if it changes with the epigenetics in “real time”.
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Do males pass on the hermies, or only hermied females?. So is the answer both?
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There’s different types of stress and not all plants react the same. To assume it would or wouldn’t pass on is like chasing the wind. Which is why testing of seeds is needed.
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One aspect of it has to be related to hormone production. We know ethylene promotes the growth of female flowers, and inhibiting ethylene causes female cannabis to revert to producing pollen. So here’s some things to think about.
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Are feminized plants sometimes made from females that have ethylene production that is easy to inhibit? Does that also mean that they would have sensitivity toward stressors, that could also inhibit ethylene and cause stamen (nanners)?
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Do males that produce pistils have some kind of genetic property that causes them to produce more female hormone? Could this lead to resistance to ethylene inhibition in females (ie more “stable” females)?
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Naw man. I mean real hermies. Not nanners. True hermaphrodite in every sense of the word. Real male pods. Not the yellow sacs. Thats what I mean. Maybe different types of hermies. The skunk 91 female didnt have nanners. It’ll herm any day now and I’ll show you what I mean. Neither did the C99. Bottom half female top half nothing but male.
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Wow, so if that got out it Truly would spread like a weed through self pollination. It’s even got the placement right, pollen on top to drift down to the flowers below.i wonder if that’s a throw back or evolution in real time lol. I seem to recall reading early life had more hermaphroditism/asexual reproduction, and the split of the genders was something that developed.
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Right. I really think the hermies are changing with the epigenetics. God’s way of punishing us for breeding all the strains together. Jk. Talk like that leads to socialism.
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Well please do post pics to show, that would be interesting, even if it’s almost useless for our purposes. Prob a good sample for a lab somewhere though if it’s truly a rare mutation/throwback brought on through inbreeding.
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Although we are kinda hoping the damn skunk 91 won’t herm. Chances are it will. If we put money on it the odds arnt good. I’ll post any day now I’m sure.
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All i was asking is : Do male plants pass on the hermie traits? I have a beautiful cross that produces immense buds of complete heaven. to the mind body mouth nose neighbors and friends. However through a mistake, i lost next years seeds. I have pollinated a few buds with feminized pollen from a hard to reverse mother and then pollinated a couple with a purple hair sativa male. Now there is talk and chatter around town that our male donor may have come from a hermie bag o seeds. So will i just have to test a couple over winter? . Do I have any testers out there who have room to do so. I had planned a simple single plant grow over winter.
Yea, they can, but not for certain.
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