You ever go a really long time without a proper bender and think, “yeah…I deserve to have a good rager!” Then, 2 days later you hate yourself so much for doing what you swore off after the last one? This sounds like there were party favors involved and not of the kind variety haha.
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Oh, dude, I’ve been in serious cold-ass weather before, which is why I appreciate LA so much (or one of the reasons, anyway). But the humidity levels in our area really do fluctuate wildly on an hourly basis. It makes it impossible to keep the RH in the room anywhere near constant.
All the time haha, but it’s been a few years since I went as hard as last Sunday/Monday. I knew there’d be some blow at our get-together, but I didn’t think there’d be as much as there was. I figured people’d run out, they’d leave, I’d go to bed… But nobody ran out haha.
Last time, though, for real. I can’t believe I used to just do that shit regularly. No sleep for fifty, sixty, seventy hours, sleep for six hours, rinse and repeat. My whole body hurt on Tuesday haha, sore lower back, sore legs… I’m too old for that shit.
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damn bro how tall is your tent, 9 feet? those look like outdoor hemp from far, i say from far but its from looking on my small phone screen instead of computer and im high, huge and wild looking plants is my point haha, you hand trim? that bandaid haze #3 would have to smell realll good for me to consider trimming, these days anyways, it definetly looks sativa to the fullest
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So every night, when the lights turn on, I open the tent and just kind of stand in front of it for a minute or two (after showering and in clean clothes, of course) and try to get a vibe from the plants, looking at everything, observing, whatever. And a few nights ago, I was looking at the plants and thought,“Man… Some of those leaves look just the way they did last grow, with the aphids and shit…” So I checked the bottoms of the leaves as I pulled the plants out to water, didn’t see anything, figured everything was fine. Kind of. But something didn’t feel right. So when I watered tonight, I did the same thing, checked the bottoms of the leaves etc etc. The first plant I pulled out was the C. Gold x DE #1, everything looked good. Pulled out the BAH #4 next and this is what I saw:
I dunno what the fuck those are, but I know it isn’t good. I immediately watered with a heavy, heavy dose of OG Biowar Foliar, didn’t even measure, just dumped a bunch into the water and, uh, watered with it. Pulled off a BUNCH of fan leaves, too (a few of which are pictured above), tried to deal with it. I’m not sure why I even bothered with any of that, though, most everything’s coming down in two days now regardless. But I’m fucking PISSED.
I really don’t know what to make of this. Last grow, yeah, sure, I got a lil’ sloppy, let Bowie into the grow room, whatever. But this grow I was on-fucking-point and I still got whatever-the-fuck those things are. I dunno.
In any event, yeah, most everything is coming down in two days, I think. The only plants that I didn’t find whatever those things are on were the two C. Gold plants and the BAH #3, the one that looks like it’s gonna take forever. I think it’s interesting how both times I’ve gotten pests, they’ve only shown up right about when it was time to chop those specific plants. Like, with the last grow, I didn’t notice the aphids until day 60 or 61 (although they’d probably been there for a couple weeks and I didn’t see them), but I was planning on chopping those plants on day 63 anyway. The Mexican Melons, which had about three weeks to go, were unaffected.
Now, with this grow, I didn’t see any pests on the plants until right about when I was planning on chopping them anyway, but like almost three weeks later than the last grow. Could it be, like, right when the flowers are really starting to ripen, aphids/pests just kind of get drawn to them? Or however you wanna put it? They just show up right about when it’s time to pull? I dunno. And where are they coming from??? I really don’t get it.
In any event, I’m over this shit. I think I’m done growing. I don’t wanna deal with these pests and shit anymore, it really ruins the whole “growing experience” for me. I’m gonna post a list of my seeds somewhere where it’s cool to be selling seeds and whoever wants any of them (at cost, of course), lemme know and you can Venmo me or something…
You fucking seed whores! Haha! I’m kidding! I’m not gonna stop growing! And did you actually think I know what the fuck Venmo is and how it works? I just know it’s a thing. But I really am very, very, VERY fucking pissed about whatever those things are on the bottoms of those leaves. I don’t know what exactly I should do moving forward, but I gotta do something. I mean, yeah, IPM, sure, of course. But I kinda did that this grow. And you can’t really do it after about week three in flower, anyway, so what the fuck am I supposed to do? And where are these pests coming from? I don’t get it. Years of growing with no issues whatsoever and now…?
Gawddamn weed growing…
Edit: Scratch that, just blew up those pics, everything’s coming down tomorrow night.
Second edit: @JoeCrowe Do me a favor and tell me what you think those are. Aphids? Or something even worse?
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Yeah, they’re tall plants, for sure. And they do smell really good.
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Hey man, I understand you feeling disheartened, but here’s a though from someone with a cool head and no emotional involvement in your grow (except really wanting to see finished AOGxAfPak lol):
- once you identify the pests and confirm they are aphids, you will have a high degree of conviction that your grow area is exposed/susceptible to them,
- them showing up that late in the grow imho means that your general IPM practice is on point.
With those two data points, you would be able to improve your IPM and additionally specificly target aphids to hopefully get rid of them or at least furhter supress them. If you manage to find out where they are coming from, even better…
All the best!
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You got Aphids again…, Man, I feel you … these lil bastages suck totally!.. look at my new enemies.
Some kind of Scale (little grey bumps, shells). The got no arms or legs??? How the hell did they get in there, Haha!! And botritis on top of that, plus still have a few thrips hiding out.
Managed to save more than I lost, a couple grams, if that. This cola could have gone a week or two more though.
Florida has some bad ass bugs and 90% RH year round, Got to love it!!
These flowers smell like the orange groves in bloom, Valencia Orange blossoms, sweet and fragrant, Totally worth the effort!! Can’t wait to see how the rest turn out!
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ugh… nooo! 
That sucks bro!
You got all new soil for this run too right? Wonder where they came from… Really sucks, I’m sorry for ya 
Hopefully even the worst one’s are nowhere near as bad as the last batch was… damn.
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See where all that cleanroom stuff get’s ya? LOL!
Sorry, that sucks. Do you have to wash the plants now?
I know blasting veggies and flowers with the hose gets them off… maybe a dip in the pool? 
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Dude! You scared me!! Then I got to the next paragraph.
Sorry for your troubles brother, keep your head up. This too shall pass.
Do you have filter on your intake?
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Fuck, dude, is that the Lemon Thai? Florida is for sure nasty. It’s funny you brought that up, I got a message last night from an old buddy in Tampa saying, basically,”You have to come to our wedding on March 12.” I’m actually closer with his girl and he kinda put a guilt trip on me,”She’d really love to see you there…” blah blah blah. I bought them a fucking espresso machine for their wedding gift, thought that’d be enough to get me outta going, but it may not have been haha.
Anyway, once I realized I may actually have to go to Tampa, I got really bummed out and put “New York I Love You” by LCD Soundsystem on repeat and got a little depressed and started watering and shit. Saw those aphids and was just like,”Of course…” haha.
What’re you gonna do about those plants, @iggypuffs? That shit is gnarly.
No, it’s the same soil I’ve been using for at least a year now. But none of it was in the last grow with the aphids; I tossed all of that just to be safe. I’m really at a loss about where they might’ve come from, I’ve been being really, really good this grow.
I’m not going to. Those fans in the picture were the worst of it, some of the others had a couple, a lot didn’t have any on them. But I’m not waiting for them to spread. Everything’s coming down tonight.
That one’s in a different tent, so I’m gonna let her ride for the time being and see if I can’t get her to the finish line. I watered her pretty heavy with the Biowar Foliar last night, hopefully that’ll help.
Yeah, I’ve got one of those Dust Shroom things on the intake, been using those for years. But I leave the tent open during lights on, so… haha. But I’ve also been doing that for years and it’s only been the last two grows that I’ve had any kind of issue at all. I dunno.
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Yah looks like aphids to me! The colony is actually fairly advanced I would say it’s been there for a couple weeks. Each aphid is born with the next 2 generations inside it already. That means if you crush them all, they don’t lay eggs. I like to spray them with BTK on the apple and plum tree, as well as pepper plants.
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Shit…. Okay, well then that confirms that everything except the plant in the other tent is getting chopped tonight. Probably a good chance that plant’s infested, too, though, right? What’s BTK? Like the serial killer? Haha. That’s not something I could apply this late, is it? Is it organic?
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Yeap aphids bro… They’re a fucking pain… If you have some pesky ants running about try get rid of em. Also there is a plant called artemisia that is a great beneficial in that if aphids are about, they will tend to congregate on that plant over any of your girls… Other herbs like coriander basil are good to keep around the grow room too
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I definitely don’t have any ants in the grow room. I’m not even sure I’ve ever seen an ant in Los Angeles haha. Used to see huge ant hills in Florida, but I’ve never seen an ant here, in 20+ years haha. Or I haven’t noticed them anyway.
Do you think, though, that putting that in or near the tent/grow room might actually attract them? I mean, I guess it doesn’t matter anyway, apparently these fuckers are just gonna be a thing from now on, but I’m not sure I wanna be putting things around the house that aphids would prefer to be on.
I just wanna kill them. Take a flamethrower to them. Nuke them. Whatever haha. Whatever it takes.
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I think the BTK is what is in mosquito dunk?
or is that BTI or something, all these acronyms!
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Ah, okay, I have some of those. I water with gnatrol, though, which is the same thing. Doesn’t seem like it helped… haha.
Edit: yeah, you’re right, that’s BTI.
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BTK = Bacillus thuringiensis Kurstaki and BTI = Bacillus thuringiensis Israelensis, but I think they’re similar in how they work.
fuckin Aphids. I hate those things. A house plant we had got them recently and I burned it in the backyard. Fuck Aphids… like Joe said scary part is they’re already born with the next generation inside them… so even if you squish 'em they can still reproduce.
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Yeah, I was just reading about that BTK, it does sound similar to the BTI, but I guess each strain of bacteria targets different pests? I dunno, I’ll have to do some more reading. But I guess I’m gonna buy some? Haha. I dunno. For the next grow, at least. What a fucking bummer… I just feel lucky that those plants look pretty much done, don’t know what I’d do if this happened in, like, week five or something.
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Yeah at least the plants are almost done. Probably good idea to have some on hand for next time. When aphids do get sexually mature, the females form wings and can fly… so they could just be straight up flying in your tent with the door open. I know California and CO are seeing some species of aphids that seem to target cannabis specifically… maybe some sneaking in on cloths or just crawling through cracks or something. I dunno. The eggs they do lay can over winter, so they’re probably pretty hardy too. If it were me next round, I’d religiously do an IPM spray every 14 days of veg with neem, essential oils, AgSil16, and maybe the BTK if you want to use it. I know it’s a super pain, but I feel like it really does help systemically control pest. If they’re still fucking with you after that… time to move? Burn down the place and collect insurance?
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