Masonic was one of the easy punching bags back in the day. Along with clowns like JayPlantspeaker, Koma the Grower, and CaliOutdoor. Masonic was just one that spent more time on IG making memes. Ive known a lot of people that ran his stuff, and its all just Skunk1 polyhybrid junk. There was about 3 months all the commercial growers were trying his stuff, and none of them kept anything. He was a protege of that Oni Seed Co crew. The cosmic irony was I had a booth next to them at a Tommy CHong Cup in socal. They were arrogant jerks, had 100 dollar rosin and overpriced seeds. I sold a shameful amount of bud n hash, they didnt make a single sale. They were the classic goons selling mids, thinking they were some game changing breeders because they renamed Green Crack lol. The actual open market was BRUTAL to them. Same with masonic. Those dudes are all just a flash in the pan.
So in case anyone was wondering I ended up buying 15 seeds from Masonic on his $1 seed menu. The seeds I ordered were Indiana Bubblegum x Faceoff OG “NS”. The NS apparently means that the male could be basically anything.
Anyways, I sprouted the seeds outdoors and I got 2 of them to grow out of the 15. Normally the rates are not anywhere near that low with most seeds. 1 of the 2, the smaller of course, ended up being female. I threw her in my tent and she’s about a week in. I’ll let you guys know how she flowers.
Arghhh,
not what I wanted to hear but
here it goes,
I’m looking for purer Sativas and I saw his TomHillHaze F3’,s and pick’d up a pack.
Germ rate was 100% and it appears to be real. It’s the classic old Sativa in every manner.
It’s end of July and not showing sex. It appears to be real.
His “NS” means Natural Selection.
His shipping is insanely slow, like 15 days no notices etc. “Terpfiend” is the same way.
“Popsseedshop” has 10 strains running in his yard at the same time.
I just want a couple of old Sativas.
Buy Sell or Trade or
Will Work for Beans.
Seriously though, I will reproduce this THH F3’s and breed to another great Sativa.
Check out his YouTube videos. Also his seed collecting episode with chad Westport. He’s got an incredible garden and collection is unmatched. Super knowledgeable.
When was this, was Harry Palme part of them at that time? He seems to have some actual talent, but I can only judge by the clones I hold of his and what others say. Still haven’t popped any of the seeds I got from them (Bloom), maybe it’s time.
I’m a seed junkie, and I’ve poked around Masonic and researched and talked to some folks. I’m generally a pretty easy mark when it comes to seeds, but I’ve heard and seen enough to choose other options
After 25 years in i will give anyone a chance and try their gear. I grabbed some of Komas beans about 5 years ago. Found loads of fire, some really amazing plants, coupd never undersatnd why he got so much hate because i found some crazy heat… I just sent masonic a bunch of comics, hes going to trade for beans. Why not lol.
He grows a fakeass Sour D acting like he’s changing the world lol. Also shilling overpriced scammy products. He literally got ran out of the town I was growing in years back. He’s all talk no substance.
2017 I wanna say? That Harry dude was for sure there. He was such a jerk to us too lol. People may like it, but all I saw was midsy stuff for 100 a gram lol. Where at that show most people were selling equtable product for 10-15. Lot of those CO guys had a weird complex that they were the best. But in a real open market they couldnt make a single sale is all I know lol
Ill try most breeders myself. But I dont wanna support people with constant drama and bs. Dont wanna bring that bad energy into my garden. Koma at least ran warehouse grows. He got so much hate because he’d go on IG live all the time trying to start fights. The 1 show I missed was the one where he trashed that CaliOutdoor guy’s booth for “talking about his kids” or some madness. And the cosmic irony was it was back to back to my companies booth. So a few of my buddies saw it all go down front row. We were half these dudes age, and they acted like elementary school kids. It makes the whole scene look terrible. Especially those of us who were vendors.
Just like when that Mene Gene/Jackson weirdo was talking smack to any newer vender doing cups. Until he got beat up really bad at a show. He even threatend to kill us because we tried some of his seeds and they were trash, and I warned people to avoid them. I just nicely reminded him I always carried a piece at cups. Last I saw him was as we were walking in to setup and he turned and ran lol. He also was known as a nasty drug addict.
I dont care at all who people support. Thats capitalism. But I think I also have some responsibility to share my personal experiences with these people, positive or not. Because most of those “old school” growers were not nice folk lol. There were a lot that were super down to earth and kind too though. Im stoked see people talking about groups like Purple City Genetics nowadays, couldnt find a nicer group of people!
I even tried to score some Masonic seeds at a show one time. But I wasn’t willing to pay 10-15 a seed for untested work at the time. Especially since I knew a lotta big growers trying it and was hearing a ton of bad reviews.
DCSE has some good deals also. 3/13 seeds are a cheap price. They have some cheap deals on some other items as well. We have a lot of people here that sells seeds. Looking into sponsored section. JP has a sale now. He has a great list.
I am not sure it is the same Masonic seeds but if so don’t bother. He is a con man I contacted him through IG and made arrangements to pick up seeds from him and after sending the money he tried to say he never got it but I was able to verify he did in fact get the money and never sent the seeds. I have no respect for shady people are businesses we all work hard for our money except those that scam people.
That link dude posted is trash I only dealt with him through IG and he will ask for cash app payment there are a bunch of reviews on how he scammed other people as well. I have met some awesome people here on OG and I will make sure none of my new family gets scammed do yourself a favor and stay away if you need seeds @JohnnyPotseed I have gone through him twice already since joining he is a good dude and HONEST. I have no doubt there are others on here as well.
So I am on day 40 currently with this Indiana Bubblegum x Face off og. To be honest it’s probably the worst looking of the 5 plants in my tent, but at least it’s frosting up some.
Considering I got 1 female out of 15 beans, I wouldn’t even really say it was a good deal. But I have satisfied my curiosity about this particular breeder…
In case anyone is curious, the other pics are Strawberry Temple by Bodhi, Dante’s inferno #6 cut, Apples and Bananas cut, and another Strawberry Temple.
Thanks for posting a video so we can put a face to the POS that is Masonic Smoker I guess is what he is calling himself AKA scammer. And the internet has plenty of people he has scammed not just me.
He has had his face plastered all over his instagram for many years. Ive followed him for at least 4-5 years now, he is always posting videos with his face all over it. If you are dealing with him on instagram you would know that. This is his website. https://masonicseeds.co/ Not what was posted above. I think you got hustled by an instagram hustle impersonating him or something because something isn’t adding up? You didnt buy through his website?,you say you bought seed through instagram but dont know what he looks like even though he posts multiple videos daily with his face plastered all over? Im not trying to be a dick but something really doesnt make sense.apologies if I am missing something here. Here are two instagram profiles with loads of videos of him Masonic Seed Co (@masonic_smoker2099) • Instagram photos and videos
Where did I say I didn’t know what he looked like? I will wait. I did see him, I talked to him. But hey to each his own. I’m not the only person to be scammed. I’m simply warning people to be careful. If that makes you feel some type of way that is a you issue.
I dont feel any way at all. First ive heard of him being a scammer. Lots of pollen chucker references and shade thrown at it him for shity breeding oractises but scamming is new to me.
