Been through a lot of bad things so far in life.
That was by far the worst.
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I canât even imagine.
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Please donât try this at home,
Viewer discretion advised.
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Iâm a little late getting here, took a couple days to read through it all. Iâm happy to see some of the changes that have come about and to see all the open discussions about whatâs happening here.
Iâve been around for awhile now and was a member of OG1.0. I have to agree with those like @Meesh that the monetization needs to be halted in the open. I expect things like group buys to happen in private, but it should stay there. Allowing this to continue in the public eye gives the appearance that the site leadership condones and possibly endorses this behavior. Not to mention the threat of scams and all the drama and possible legal ramifications that come with that.
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Ultimately I think my worry is that after Hugh glass by leaving money buys allowable we have now got much less trust to spread around and are running into troubles because of it. To me the activity on the free seeds thread has looked like shilling and I am worried that it is another future scam being played on the membership here, of course it could also be nothing of the sort. If the money buys were removed it would not really matter, if someone wanted all the likes they can have them without the opportunity for anything nefarious . I would like to apologise if i have offended anyone, that is not my intention just to point out the shilling can give people a bad impression of your future intentions even if your intentions are just to chat and hang
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She couldâve banged your best friend while you were in jail cause you lost your shit after your little brother died of a heroin overdose and then you had to pick up all those pieces and fix all those relationships and bridges you burned while in your âfuck it, I donât care about lifeâ phase, so you didnât lose everything youâd ever worked for and cared about.
Still haunts me to this day, I caused literally all of it by being the best at saying âfuck itâ and living that life style.
Anyways, I STILL want to advocate for a polling section on the site.
Bare minimum to have democratic unanimity among the community on which direction we want to take serious topics. Thatâs all this entire thread is, is one giant long winded poll getting out each of our individual opinions on how our community is handled.
A section for polling would indefinitely give the higher ups insight into how the community feels on any specific issues
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Maybe Iâm missing something here? I kinda/sorta take umbrage at the mixing of those two wordsâŠâhippyâ and âgrifterâ⊠I was considered a âhippieâ, but never considered a âgrifterâ. Is that a word with a newer meaning than what it meant in the '60s and '70s? I ask this just to clear thing up for me, thanksâŠ
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I agree, to me a grifter would mean someone with less than honorable intentions with no part in the community, while a hippie is a lot simpler, lives in harmony, loves music and contributes to a community in a positive way. Iâm a few years behind ya @JohnnyPotseed but they still called us crunchy hippies at recent Phish shows (Kind of a sign of reverence from a 21 year old when they hear you went to festivals before they were born). I would consider a grfter equivolent to be the inner city ânon-fansâ who didnât even know the band, but would be all over the lots after a show with automotive grade nitrous because they could make bank on a tank. Camden NJ was hugely popular with that crowd given the proximity of PhillyâŠ
Definitely two different types of people IMHO
Shit, I still consider myself a hippie. 
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Thatâs one of the reasons why I posted it, new people voting on, hope we are still a majority! 
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grift·er/ËÉĄriftÉr/
noun
NFORMALâąNORTH AMERICAN
- a person who engages in petty or small-scale swindling.
âI saw him as a grifter who preys upon peopleâ
https://www.merriam-webster.com âș dictionary âș hippie
](Hippie | Definition of Hippie by Merriam-Webster)
Hippie definition is - a usually young person who rejects the mores of established society (as by dressing unconventionally or favoring communal living) and .
edit⊠also spelled âhippyâ
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Canât speak for them but Hippie has definitely changed meaning. Hippies these days arenât real deal hippies, theyâre playing the role and using it as a justification for being opinionated, stoned, and stinky. Obviously not across the board but the majority.
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I AM NOT OPINIONATED!!! I resemble that remark.
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Lols gotta laugh at an entire thread about âits not the same here anymoreâ and the majority of posters have been here like 3 years or less. Ok maybe not quite but soo many people posting acting like long term members and theyâve been on here for a few months or maybe years⊠Out of the last 10 posters on this thread not one person has been on longer than a few years. Got people who joined this year going on about it?? weird
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And your point(less) being? And just an âfyIâ fellaâŠIâm one of those âlast 10 postersâ here and I was around OG from '99 until it closedâŠ
âŠSay what? I canât hear yaâŠ
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But joined again a year agoâŠIâm just curious how soooo much has changed that it requires an entire thread of noobs complaining?
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I for one am not complaining about anything on here. I found OG was back up n running just early last year. I came back for one reason only to see if Oldtimer1 was still around so I could thank him for answering my few questions about his Bonsai TuteâŠ
edit⊠@NoobyMacDooby , I stuck around for a couple of reasons, one was plain old nostalgia, and the other was it seemed to be a decent place with decent folks⊠Iâve given a couple thousand seeds away and also traded a few, but I see that as no problem for me, and no skin off anyone elseâs nose if I didâŠ
edit⊠lol sorry but this is nagging at me this morning⊠@NoobyMacDooby , if you feel up to it, go to my very first postings here and youâll see⊠nothing but love cuz!
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Those are hippies? here we call them dirty kids, or the voluntarily homeless.
I worked with a guy who had a trust fund, house bought for him.
Opens it up as a place for these dirty kids to crashâŠ
Few months later, he is stuck in (I donât remember where), at the hopsiptal. ODâd and the rest of his âcrewâ left him there and took off in HIS converted school busâŠ
âŠlast I heard he is putting hit shit back together after realizing his âfriendsâ were just using him up.
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Well I have to say that the giving out of hundreds of seeds absolutely free being compared to some kind of scam or setup is somewhat offensive. As is comparing a generous act to shilling. When someone does something out of kindness and generosity and than gets compared to some kind of scam artist it is bound to offend to some degree. I find it unfortunate that some try to find some kind of nefarious motive behind even the nicest geatures.
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Let it be know Doug, That I have had fun winning and enjoyed receiving free seeds from you. And I donât think youâre shilling. And I would also be offended in your shoes. just keep doing you man! Lots of us enjoy the love you spread around here.
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Trustafarians are exactly what comes to mind when I think of hippies. Rich kids who can afford to sit around stinking while telling you their ârevolutionaryâ concepts and how money is evil with their daddyâs gold card in their back pocket. Bonus points if they tell you how much they hate everything the card represents while using it!
Are you sure you arenât thinking of âcrust punksâ?