I was thinking if pollen is needed to carry on any of these genes I could provide some. @District_Flora sorry your last hermed. You’ll be ok, everything will work out.
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yeah i know, im just disappointed still my try was a herm. the lambs bread hermed out some at the same time that i was able to pick off and save some harvest, but that one was everywhere in side the flower sites, i am guessing do the others herm out in sim. ways? i should say other land race tropical type stuff?
eventually im sure these will get to the f5s. remember i still got some shashamabe ill run when im done with this mad house on this one. im wondering if they dont herm too much in their native zone for growing, if at any herms show, then what is it that is going on where it would be forced to herm? ]the lights we use?? there has to be something that when growing the fussy/pissy land races out here in north america.
the reason this strain drew me to it was the history behind it and, is supposed to be very nice sativa high, that is or has no ceiling, a smoke all day kind of thing? wouldn’t you think it would be high in thcv? im talking about shashamane sativa
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With unintended pollination, once the calyx swells a little and I am sure its an immature seed, i pluck it off and eat it😋. Kinda sweet like a pea .The earlier you spot it and remove it, the better.
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Shashamane has a long lasting energetic pschedelic high.
The landraces that herm the most seem to come from the Equatorial belt. Its only a theory of mine, but I think plants in these regions, particularly jungle varieties, have in some instances learned to self pollinate due to humid/ wet conditions occurring frequently. Pollen doesn’t last long in these conditions, and thick tropical plant growth prevents pollen from traveling any distance. It sticks to wet surfaces and gets immobilized. Best way around this is self fertilization imo.
Shashamane may not have these jungle conditions, but tropical India does, and that is where the genetics originally come from, at least in part.( Lambsbread and thus Shashamane, if they are related , is most likely in part Indian )
Typically, stressful conditions will trigger this trait to show itself. Landraces find stress in…
Small containers
New climates( temperature, humidity, sun intensity and daylenghth all different)
Growing under a light bulb instead of the sun
Using Fertilizer, especially Nitrogen and phosphorus
Yes i think it could contain thcv. Good chance of that.
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do you know the min. light cycle it takes for them to flower? is it 11 or under for a good light time?
most will flower under 12/12 though right?
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Thanks will take a look 
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I don’t know of anything that won’t start flower with 12 hrs darkness. It might take 2 months of 12 12 to start producing flowers…
Heres a great example of why tropical plants don’t see 12 /12 as a flowering only cycle…its also the length of the day during the veg or grow cycle. Its close to 12/12 all year.
So a plant from this type of region will typically begin flowering based on its age rather than daylength. (though ac12 hr cycle is also needed.
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Brilliant responses Upstate! Made me think. I noticed on the 5 Ost plants you gave me im having fast flowering and no hermies. I have underfloor heating and the flower room gets very hot. I wonder if cold feet may effect growers as well trying out these long stretchers. Not talking about these growers or this strain just long flowering tropicals in general.
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Cold feet slows flowering normally…yes. the Thai were quick to start, slow to finish. Ranged from 15-21 weeks, with the strange hermie flowering very fast and switching sex entirely in 11 weeks time. (Looked to me a lot like highland thai buds). Ost could get Oaxaca flowering time of 13 weeks… we shall see. Should be at least that long.
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I will follow thru with the full grow and see what happens and thanks for the knowledge on this threads strain here as well. Interesting plant regardless. Seems like one to leave in the jungle to continue to evolve if it herms so bad.
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That sounds really good to me.
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It takes work, no doubt. But imagine a world with no thai, no Colombian. No.Oaxaca… oh, that’s so awful i can’t continue the thought. The horror of the thought.
My life would instantly mean less:rofl:
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Thanks for all of the support, I didn’t take any pictures when I said I would because I went to check for those brown hairs I swear I saw and there weren’t any. Maybe I accidentally pulled them off? I know what I saw so I was very confused. I did end up finding two more small pods that had busted on another plant, they were hiding under some smaller nodes that are beginning to develop where the branch meets the main stem. Removed them and kept the plant as I saw no more other than the two. Sprayed all of the females down thoroughly with water and today I checked to see plenty of brown tips but I have the 5 females surrounding the one male, who has started opening up more sacs so I’m convinced what I saw today is from the male. Although I wouldn’t doubt the herms I missed didn’t contribute. We’ll see, y’all seem a bit more open minded than I expected so if that’s the case, I don’t mind working this line. Feel free to offer assistance if you’re interested though! Lol
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6 in all, 5 females and 1 male now.
Yeah, I’d be interested to see if the male passed any herm traits on. Mine seems to be stable so I would think maybe not, or maybe some mild issues like sensitivity to consistent stress or end flower bananas
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now that helps a great deal, yeah i see what you mean on the times. i guess im trying to figure out too much why it hermmed and try again later.
like any other grower, when plants herm its hard to get back to them.
ill try them again like i said above when i clear some room,
i have to try to find some lambs bread seed so i can do a side by side on them
i just have know if they are the true lambs bread. i can tell you though i got a little off the lambs bread it was some real nice smoke.
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well maybe there are some good ones from the strain, i have my fingers crossed for you and im hoping you left all the problems behind you
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@District_Flora - sorry I’ve not been around for a bit - I was having an internet break for a week or so…
i did have an early herm on a lady most likely my fault due to light leak - a few S1 may be on the the plant. it was the earliest gal and no other plants were showing sex at the time.
unfortunately, out of the 10 seeds only had 8 germ and all 8 plants are FEM. I have 4 cuts from 2 plants and trying to get them to re-vegg - the gal on left in back is the one that shot a few nanners…
Also, I need to check the calendar but they seem to be finishing already…
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Are those all Shashamane? Beautiful plants! I made a failed attempt to save some pollen from my co-op run but I could give it another shot with this male if you want some? He’s definitely stable
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What’s the nose on yours?
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They haven’t been flowering very long have they? I think its safe to say that if these are related to Lambsbread, its in the same fashion as modern day Jamacain. Perhaps contamination has followed Rastas to Ethiopia, or this is some Ethiopian landrace unrelated or only partly related to Lambsbread.
@District_Flora how far along are you again?
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