Hey everyone. Had these babies going for a while… wanted to start this thread a while back… life just gets busy and well you know… but here we are!
These are from The Landrace Team. So far they’ve been an absolute joy to take care of. They literally grow themselves. All I have to do is watch 
These will be photos from birth up to current. I plan on flowering once my current run is done (bout 6-8 more weeks).
Here’s the parents:
Here’s the clones:
As you can see, the clones have grown slightly even without roots. This is a good sign for me. Normally they’ll start poking roots out a few days after I start noticing new growth. Some of them actually look like they’re trying to flower too which is kind of strange considering my clones are on 18/6 schedule.
As far as my plans for these go… if anyone here hasn’t seen my Mutant Madness thread they should take a peek. I plan on using these fantastic genetics to increase the vigor of the mutant lines. I’ve been thinking hard about where the inject these genes in my mutant journey. I decided that it’s best if I start early. Once each (Mutant x Lagkitan) F2 shows itself and I’ve selected my keepers of those, then I will begin breeding the mutants together. Right now though, they just don’t seem to grow fast enough for my liking. My hope is, the Lagkitan will greatly improve growth habits and structures.
As far as just the Lagkitan go… I do plan on making “F2s”. The kicker here which some may not like is that I’m going to select my small population (19 total). I plan on keeping every female until I’m 100% certain I won’t regret letting any of them go. As far as the males go… I just need 1. I’ll pick my favorite from the group and toss the rest. If natural herms show up, I will remove them like the plague. Honestly though the way these have been growing… I don’t expect a hermie out of the bunch. That said, they are landrace and I should expect a few natural herms.
Anyways, that’s all for now!
Hello there! Any idea what sort of flower time you will have here?
Yessir! Welcome.
TLT says once maturity is reached then it’s 11-14 weeks for most phenotypes. I do believe I have the 6 different phenotypes in my plants. I have a couple big ones, some on the smaller side, and some just perfect in between.
I do plan on flowering the clones for what that’s worth.
That sounds quite manageable for a landrace 
I am excited to get to see the pictures as these grow out, thanks for sharing!
I hope so! They’re truly an incredible species of cannabis so far.
Can’t wait to see what the flowers hold. 
Looking great. I suspect you’ll have trees in eight weeks.
Thanks! I suspect it won’t take that long. In the 1 week since I took the top half of each plant… they’ve all pretty much rebounded and are going crazy again. In the next couple of days I’m going to begin bonsai on all of them. If I don’t they’re quickly going to become unmanageable.
Update time!
and the clones:
Starting to take! Hopefully next week they’re all vigorously growing roots.
Real nice bromigo…
Thanks! Can’t wait to give everyone a smoke report 
Going to be half a year probably though… 11-14 weeks by themselves after initiating flower. Nowhere near ready for that.
The Cebuano strain I have tried before has a wonderful, bright, social, active type of high. It’s that kind of cannabis that makes you feel just a little smarter than normal. Looking forward to following your grow out of these.
TLT probably named these, as"Lagkitan" is a Tagalog word. Proper Cebuano for “sticky” would be “Mapiliton”. That type of local stuff goes for about $220 per.kilo, with about half the weight being stems, and seeds. Prior to the current, and now the incoming administration of former dictator Marcos’s son, cannabis was a lot more available than today. All Filipino landraces are under threat of extinction currently. Adding to the threat, like most places, the locals that smoke prefer US type genetics which all fall under the moniker of “Kush”. However, the western cultivars from higher latitudes could never grow properly outdoors so close to the equator, with near 12-12 almost year round. Autos would be ideal for that climate.
Thank you so much for the info!! It’s invaluable to the community.
Are you able to comment on any of the other TLT Filipino varieties - Kibungan, Kalinga, Baguio Gold?
I might think about picking up a bunch of the varieties available then before they disappear forever! Hopefully places like TLT and all the other wonderful landrace breeders are doing these preservations justice and actually saving these strains from extinction. As someone who has consistent access to “Kush bud” in the US… I can certainly say that these equatorial sativas won’t be commercially grown for dispensary production. All my life I’ve wanted to try one but they just aren’t around. So I found a good one and decided to grow my own 
Nope, I wish I could say I was well rounded on Filipino varietals, but I’m only familiar with stuff local to Cebu Procince, which is where the Lagkitan hails from at around 10N. If you look at Latitude, Philipinnes ranges from around 7N in Glan, Sarangani, to 18N near Appari, Cagayan in the Ilocos region. Quite a large difference for a landmass that equals roughly the size of Arizona, and home to 110,000,000 people .
Intereating tidbit, If you go back to the 1985 Super Sativa Seed Club catalog, there was also a Tugueraro, Filipino landrace cross featured. The same cross is probably lost to history. That’s a northern area, similar to the Kalinga, or Baguio that are probably most the popular Filipino varietals.
If I were you, I’d get all I can get from the region. They also have at TLT the Violeta, Kalinga. I believe that’s the one Dubi at Ace worked a bit.
Additionally, Karma spoke on The Pot Cast about a Filipino landrace he came by, that he reportedly loves. The story alone is worth a listen. You’re right, they will never become the latest rage of dank, or the biggest yielder in a room. They’re outdoor plants ideally. If youn think about it, they are basically delayed onset, large autoflowers. They have terrible node spacing, if it wasnt so, theyd rot and mold. Yet, there’s still something special there. It reminds me of some kind of old Mexican red hair bsck in the 80’s, just a great, fun high, and definitely worth experiencing.
Here’s a thread I started…
Looking great !!!
Excited to see them develop into trees 
@LimeGreen - I’m not sure the Lagkitan will fit the bill for terrible node spacing… some of them seem rather nice in veg… I know in flower is a whole different situation. I’m not sure these are time sensitive either… unless they’re still too young in their life cycle. I guess I will know when these mother plants become a year old. They don’t seem like an autoflower to me. They seem like a regular hardy sativa plant. I’m quite excited to see what flowering brings. I hope there aren’t too many herms.
@PhilCuisine - Thanks for sharing that thread! It’s inspiring to see that varieties from the same region look so wonderful. Hopefully I can find similar in these Lagkitan.
@royal - Thanks. They are a complete joy to care for. So vigorous it’s crazy. These ones will become literal trees… bonsai trees. Now that I know it clones decently I can create clone copies to flower out. I would like to keep 5 or 6 stable females and 1 stable male, so I can create more seeds if I need to. I don’t feel like I’m really bottlenecking the species if I keep several different females. I hope one of them is the scorpion pheno, one the green pheno, and some other naturally beautiful purple specimens. Of course I want the effects on them to all be phenomenal but a man can dream can’t he?
Oh they’re a hardy Sativa plant alright. In their natural environment, which is a near constant 12-12, they’ll veg for several months before flowering. I’ll be curious how they react to a flip indoors. Since they are getting about 6 hours more light than they’d ever see in the hills of Cebu, and then a sudden reduction, they may act like a typical indoor plant. Naturally though, it isn’t really a lighting change that triggers flower, it’s more of a growth duration related thing.
I hear what you’re saying. By the time these do get to flower they will be sexually mature. Most of them have branches with alternating nodes which has always been a telltale sign for me that they’re starting to get there. Soon preflowers will start showing up on like the 3rd or 4th node from the top. Unless these are completely different from everything else I’ve grown and not this way at all. I wondered about the 18/6 schedule they’re on but they seem to love it. I hope they’ll be fine with a switch to 12/12 without stressing them out too much.
are you shure? the line from ace i barely seen, including on spanish forums… but i got them offered (ace violetta… yeah, if somebody wants to reproduce them… i may arrange them for you, but only peoples with good intentions PM.
Aaaah, VIOLETTA i found em! wait,could be!!
