Federal legalization in the USA, what does the future hold for cannabis?

Why because you said so?
How about a bit more to support your idea than that.

Wax/THC was at one time considered an analog.

You seem to keep missing this point.
CBD and THC are not Pharma drugs.
If they become pharma drugs things could change with those 2 drugs.
Again I ask…What phama drugs can be produced in our basement.

I wonder what would happen if cannabis is down-scheduled to medicine, could things change for THC too.
I gave a good example of why I feel the way I do and it was not even addressed.
They did this with NAC what keeps them from doing it with CBD?
Nothing is the correct answer.

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You need to fully read articles/posts. I stated my support in that a method can never be an analog of an end product.

Additionally, please note that analogs when referring to drugs usually refer to drugs made to mimic illicit substances, not necessarily to generics of already approved drugs. But for the sake of this argument, I’ll go with the definition as you are using it.

Now furthering that, can CBD ever be considered an analog of a CBD-containing drug. Again, no. A single component of a drug can’t be an analog of a composition drug. It’s illogical.

You literally stated above that CBD is, as you put it, a Pharma drug.

Make up your mind.

But, if the ingredients for any “pharma” drug are legal, and you have the recipe, then yes, you can produce it. You just can’t sell it.

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He just likes to argue brother.

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I know. Unfortunately, so do I. It’s the engineer in me.

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My wife now insists I not travel anyplace weed is illegal. I get too snarky and difficult to be around. It sucks, cuz I really like her family, who live in Georgia, a non-legal state. It also keeps me from visiting my Kiwi sister in New Zealand. I’m surprised they’re as ass-backwards about weed as they are. Disappointing.

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Yeah, but an engineer isn’t going to argue “the sky is falling” :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I made my points and I have not heard any compelling argument against it.
Well, “cause I said so”, but that is nothing more than my opinion is better than yours.
It is like having a conversation with children.
Why do folks always have to stoop so low as to make personal attacks?

The whole it can never happen attitude is very short sited…in my opinion…LOL

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You know you meant your statement to be insulting, let us not play child games here.
Same weak sauce over and over.
Same shit I heard when I spoke of corporate canabis, GMO cannabis and plant patents.

Your crazy…never going to happen they said over and over.
were they right?
Well, we can see corporate cannabis is on the rise.
We now have GMO cannabis and many more plant patents.
I know folks will go back to the old not enforceable claim.
Time will tell on plant patents, folks seem to be spending millions on them so they must not agree with the claim they will not be enforceable.

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CBD is an ingredient of Epidiolex, but not the entire drug. Acetylsalicylic acid is an ingredient of aspirin, but not the entire drug. Pretty sure it’s legal to grow willow trees… though admittedly, trying to do so in my basement might not work too well. I’m already growing a few trees down there. :stuck_out_tongue: If I choose to start growing willow trees, extracting acetylsalicylic acid from the bark and marketing a drug based on it, the FDA might have some choice words for me. I think that’s the point @Randar is trying to make.

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Thank you.

Ok, fair point.
But
What is the difference if it is willow or cannabis?
If you extract CBD and market it as a drug is it not exactly the same?

What do you think they are speaking of here?
They seem to be speaking of any unapproved CBD product.
Or do I have that wrong?

These other, unapproved, CBD products may have dangerous health impacts and side effects. We remain focused on exploring potential pathways for CBD products to be lawfully marketed while also educating the public about these outstanding questions of CBD’s safety. Meanwhile, we will continue to monitor and take action, as needed, against companies that unlawfully market their products — prioritizing those that pose a risk to public health.”**

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It’s exactly the same, which has been my point. The key wording is after the and.

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“Pretty sure it’s legal to grow willow trees…”

I grew poppies on public land in the Ozarks. Not a crime until I harvested the latex. 30 years ago you could buy dextromethorphan ephedra and ketamine without even showing ID. Then dumb kids found out those are drugs. The government typically doesn’t regulate something until enough people find out about it, and try to profit off it.

I tried Kratom before it was cool. No reason to regulate. Now that it’s cool, and profitable because dumb people know about it, it’s been regulated.

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And this is where we are with CBD.

So maybe we do agree after all then, in short, that is all I am saying here is, if you make CBD in your basement and you sell it with claims of medical benefits, you will run into problems.

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I just wish you would have said the bolded stuff at first. Would have saved a lot of typing.

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LOL… I thought I was saying that all along, I feel I honestly did my best to send that message, I guess I just was not clear enough. :joy:

What did you think I was trying to say?

Also, to be clear, I feel to sell CBD oil as a novelty is like selling cannabis seeds as bird seed.
I feel that is deceptive and is a bit underhanded and could be subject to legal issues if caught doing so.
What I am saying here is…
Just because they get away with it does not make it legal.

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Everything I read was indicating you meant that the simple production of CBD would run afoul of FDA approval, etc.

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My humble apology for lack of clarity. :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:
Oh, I have to say you were right, and it seems the word analog was probably a bad choice for CBD so good catch there, I guess I did not fully understand the term.

But that word did help me to get the idea across.
What is the proper word for making non-illicit drugs in your basement?
If I learn it then maybe I will use the proper term next time. :slightly_smiling_face:

I don’t think there is a single word for that. Maybe reproduction?

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I don’t know about your state, but in cali you can’t use a still or even have one in your garage unless you register it with the state. Even for non-alcohol purposes

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Nope, distillation is not legal (on the Federal level). I was just talking about dumping yeast into wort and letting nature do its thing.

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