I dunno man, everything is deficient in Boron, even BORAX has a boron deficiency 
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I hear ya!
Just trying to stay away from those hidden hot pockets of calcium molybdenum selenium and zinc in the medium… 
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OF is hit or miss for me. Happy Frog is great stuff and have never had an issue with it but OF depends on the bag. I recently had two bags of it and on the one bag I swore the shit off for good but still had to use up the second one before changing gears. The second bag I had zero issues with and am currently growing some really happy looking plants that get nothing but water 98% of the time. The other 2% is a a sip of SuperThrive in the water.
Much better with autos though because they’ll generally make it through their life on what is in OF alone ( a good bag). Photos can start needing supplementation at some point to stay happy.
Happy Frog is nothing like ocean forest, had great results with it using top dressed ammenments, dont push it past 20 days or so…
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I’ve done full grows in Happy Frog and was happy with the results. I could have yielded much more if I made amendments to it and fed more but no complaints on the end results.
I know a guy who got into growing a little after me and he asked me what soil I used. He had tried OF on seedlings and torched them so I told him about HF. I ran into him recently for the fist time in a few years and he showed me pics of what he grew. I was like damn man I might have to get some pointers from you at this rate! Seriously nice stuff and decent yields, I was honestly impressed. I asked what soil he was using at this point and he said “just Happy Frog like you told me” 
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I don’t use ocean forest. I have had to get it. It’s not the same anymore. Even happy frog. Ocean forest does not work the same. I had problems with it.
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Just add water! 
Not listed is that they sell in 3 cubic foot bags as well.
Yes, I know, I sound like a broken record… 
Cheers
G
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I use happy frog. I’ve ran the same soil for almost 2 years now. Some of it has been right after the grow. Pull the tree out I’ll leave roots. Not too big. If you get soil that has bugs in it just run boiling water through it and some hydrogen peroxide. Mix it with a little bit of bone meal you’re good to go. Worm casting Dr. earth any of that stuff will help. I do have some in Coco. I do like that for sardines seeds better. Coco loco
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That stuff sounds great. At one time I used Alaskan fish fertilizer. Soil topping that was it. Never ph my water. Never had a problem until I started listening to somebody. Trying to tell me that I was having a problem. They sure as hell don’t know what they’re doing. Lol.
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Walmart has Pro Mix Moisture, I have been using it two grows now as starter before compost, WC/Bat Guano, Gypsum, Aloe, BioAg FulPower & FOOP.
Has it any value here, Idunno…lol
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Its too bad ffof was at one time a great soil. Then it went the way of many expanding companies going from small batch to commercial the quality became non existent.
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Roots 707 is okay. I am not going to rave about it, but I am using it instead of FFOF these days.
KIS MIX BLENDED SOIL
This powerhouse of a mix is a blend of sphagnum peat, perlite, fish compost, leaf compost, worm castings, biochar, blood meal, kelp meal, crab meal, feather meal, Dead Soldier fly frass, fish bone meal, gypsum, soft rock phosphate, alfalfa meal, oyster shell flour, Wollastonite rock dust, Volcanophos rock dust, and Huplaso basalt.
Looks Great!
The ingredient list
I remember seeing KIS here and there.
Going to have to give it a run.
Looks like a KIS mix blended soil “VS” Miller soils "Red’s Premium Biochar blend is in my future
Thanks for the heads up @Gpaw
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I ran it on my ongoing grow and was really impressed.
It’s mild enough to run seedlings in it and I ‘bumped it up a notch’ for veg and flower re-potting (instead of going to a 7 or 10 gal container).
The results were great.
Cheers
G
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Just make your own, not hard to do
1 part perlite,pumice,rice hulls, or lava rock
1 part peat or coir
2 parts compost( I use 50/50 mushroom compost and Scotts humus and manure, can also use ewc)
1 cup per 10 gallon of Dr earth herb and veggie
Made 500 gallons with this recipe for about $250, that’s 50 cents a gallon. Fox farms would have been $1250 for the same amount, so for 20% of the cost of fox farm I got plenty of soil and the best part is it’s all consistent quality
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1/3rd Certified organic compost
1/3rd Earth Worm Castings (EWC / vermicompost)
1/3rd a mix of kitchenscraps, tree leaves, grass clippings, nettles, dandelion leaves, thistle…
And whatever covercrop mix you like.
I like vetch, doesn’t suffocate seedlings or young plants.
Perlite is a waste of space and money.
The roots from the previous grows do the same perlite does but better.
If you’re gonna grow in soil then go all the way and go no-till and leave the bottles behind otherwise you might as well stay in coco. More often than not I see people struggle when using synthetic nutes in soil because no handful of soil is the same.
There’s a 100.000 different species of life in there that work together to feed your plant.
Nutes bypass them… really makes no sense.
Well u gotta start with something, that mix needs something for drainage and aeration and water retention, that mix is all compost… He don’t have cover crop roots yet, can’t just skip till they form…
Nutes is basically sticking a needle in your plants arm and force feeding em, which explains the yield but good quality takes time in my opinion
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Ofcourse you can. It’s not compacted soil, compost is extremely fluffy.
Depends on what makes up the compost… Have u ever tried to grow in 100% worm castings? I did as an experiment and it was just way to muddy of a medium
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