FieldEffect's Attempt to Grow Indoors

[FieldEffect]

@Fuel

The apical shoot is just the more balanced bit of this plant and at high level of auxins/cytos. Always remember that this plant don’t really “grow vertically” but is torturing its cells to “pull” the plant from the apical roots.

Glad to hear you are jammin’ good tunes over there. I am beginning to understand this, its how plant hormones seem to be described. To me, it’s a wild change in the way I think about plants and their growth. Like many things, with time it will become more clear. It’s wild how complicated this stuff is when you start digging.

Thanks for all the info and crumbs leading to more. For now I need a few days to mentally compost this new information.

@Nitt @BigF I actually have the tray now with a temperature controller setup and the sensor in a plug hole. I agree generally with the warmer being “faster” with anything plant/chemical, but the more I learned about the hormonal shifts driving callus the more my mind opened to the possibility of there existing advantages to using cooler temperatures in this initial phase of cloning (first couple days). Particularly if the mother plant has been consuming a high-N diet. I don’t want to go too much further into that because I feel I’m only at the precipice of understanding. Starting to look off the edge so to speak.

The geek in me wants to make a clone controller with a temp sensor and small exhaust blower. Maybe this summer I’ll explore that a bit. There tends to be a lull in work stress April-July. That’ll probably be when I make shitloads of candy as well

Good to hear the coco perlite mix is working well. And sincerely happy to learn of your success.

I think when I take cuts next I’m going to supplement moms for a few days prior with high-K feed and cut down the N. I suspect that will actually have a fairly significant impact.

Sea-K Kelp Extract

Grabbed a small sample of this to try.

Let’s meander away from walls of text now, I plan to stay cobbed all day. I had a “fully torqued” day yesterday smoking 3-month conventional cure Panama x Malawi, today I plan to compare the 3-month cobb of the same plant I opened last weekend.

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I hear you guys like pictures of weed grown by an over-thinking newb in a cramped environment.

I’m happy to oblige that curiosity.

For the most part they are looking reasonable. No water today but noticed a bit of fungus growing about the stem of one of the 907xShiska cuts, so sprayed it down with H2O2 and set it to the side.

The seedling tray is a miniature forest. Gender test results will come back by mid-week this tray hopefully thins itself out.

Here’s a family shot of the 907 Blue Genes x NL #1:

Here’s the 907 Blue Genes x Shiskaberry #3:

The Runtz x Sour Bubble (they are thirsty still):

Yes, @Fuel here I am with Runtz. Believe me, if I could find SPG I’d have her as well You’ll note R2 with some leaf crisping. I must have missed it watering on Friday morning, yesterday I wasn’t sure it’d make it or not, but other than some fan leaf damage it seems recovered. Crazy.

I did some general fan leaf removal on the larger plants just to thin them out a bit given the density.

Here’s what the whole setup looks like ready to zip it back up

I’m going to look at setting up a crude ebb&flow for the mother plants. I have more of these really heavy-duty trays, I’m thinking a miniature pump in the lower tray partially flooding the top tray and draining back down would be a big improvement in consistency. With the lights on 24 hours these things are bone fucking dry when I water the next morning. I need to either go to fertigating twice a day or cut back on the throttle. We’re torquing now

[Fuel]

It’s complicated to express how i love the canopee you got on this floor ^^ And faster than me atm

I have a demand : If ever you can take the measure of the PPFD in the shadow at the level of the surface of the sponges + at the level of the canopee (touching the leaves) + remembering me what kind of diodes it is. I will appreciate a bunch to can ask you this without real intentions. It’s for my education only.

For the wounded clone, it happens. The “steak start to rot”. Personally i directly throw them, but i can understand how it look radical. Dunk it totally (as it) in a soft peroxide solution (10%-20%%) for ~5 minutes (like a submarine), you have more chances to save his ass this way.

[FieldEffect]

@Fuel

If ever you can take the measure of the PPFD in the shadow at the level of the surface of the sponges + at the level of the canopee (touching the leaves) + remembering me what kind of diodes it is.

Canopy ranges from 350-410umol depending on height and location. Shaded rockwool with tent closed is 35umol. These are 6500K diodes on a homemade layout of my own design.

@Fuel

Dunk it totally (as it) in a soft peroxide solution (10%-20%%) for ~5 minutes (like a submarine), you have more chances to save his ass this way

Will attempt this for clone rescue. If it’s a gonner, no biggie. More clone practice in my future any way I slice it

[JustANobody]

Nice set up! Are those runt x Sour Bubble from GLG?

[FieldEffect]

Yessir! TonyGreen made a comment about those being some

[JustANobody]

I’ve seen him post about them. I have 10 or 15 of them, they look really good. Can’t wait to see how they turn out for you.

[FieldEffect]

You and me both. Hoping to find some nice moms amongst these beans for 2024 outdoor season. I have a feeling there’ll be a few

Get a little indoor gardening under my belt and we’ll see where it goes next.

[Fuel]

Thanks for the updated extras buddy, i appreciate a lot.

[tamimes]

Hey field
My observation
for the clones if its to wett in the dome you can get mold or the grow tip will rot

I think your light color and intensity keep the plants super short ( this is okay when you flower out these) but for moms you want some stretch) so you can take some bigger clones
I use some cheap shop led lights 4000 k light and it gives me the perfect stretch

[FieldEffect]

We have roots on one of the cuts! My first CLONE!

Unfortunately, the “steak start to rot” cutting (S2) is deceased following his H2O2 bath/fungal infection. RIP.

The seedlings on the lower deck I swear grow an inch every day. I thinned things out yesterday it seems to be back into full jungle mode again. They are all much better size to take cuts again…normal size cuts this time. I may just take cuts of all of them a little early knowing it’ll take 2 weeks for them to be viable. I ordered some small squeeze bottles to fill with rooting gel, I’ll just squeeze that into the little holes in the root plugs. We’ll see when I get gender tests, whichever comes first.

I’m excited to be developing some skills and knowledge regardless of the outcome. But seeing a root popping out of one of the cuts and the topmost leaflet growing really started my day off right

I’ve been browsing my seed list for beans to chuck onto the table for 12/12 from seed. I wanted to try a solo cup with mapito for the Solo Cup Challenge. May as well get some practice.

@tamimes

I think your light color and intensity keep the plants super short ( this is okay when you flower out these) but for moms you want some stretch) so you can take some bigger clones
I use some cheap shop led lights 4000 k light and it gives me the perfect stretch

Thanks for the input! I’ve been noticing the super short part. I did that on purpose because of the limited space, but I do think I went a bit too blue. Hindsight. I’ll assemble the rest of the panels with more moderate color temperature parts later this spring.

[tamimes]

These are under cheap shop led 4000k and i can cut every 2 weeks just as info
Every 3 months i cut the roots and add som fresh dirt

[BigF]

Grats on first cut!

[FieldEffect]

Torque is at high levels here. I think most of the cuts are making it. Parents are like a jungle.

I think perhaps I should consider reducing the photoperiod to take the foot off the throttle. Plenty of plant to take cuts easily now. This weekend I’m going to take more cuts after watering for 2 days on reduced-N, boosted K. Still need cuts of the Runtz x Sour Bubbles and most of the 907 Blue Genes x Shiskaberry. The numbers should be reduced by Wednesday once males are disposed of. I’m too much an idiot to attempt to keep all the males alive for breeding, I need to keep my scope within reason. I want 2-3 moms left when this is all said and done, after I make selections based on flowering them out.

[funkyfunk]

That’s good news! They look really good.

Please don’t jump like that in there

[FieldEffect]

Thanks funky! I do my jumping outside the tent

[funkyfunk]

Ahah imagining you opening the tent and jumping everywhere. Careful with your morning drink!

[FieldEffect]

9 girls 5 boys

[FieldEffect]

Dense AF this morning but thirsty. Going to rig up my micro flood table this weekend.

Runtz x Sour Bubble ladies

907 Blue Genes x NL #1 ladies

907 Blue Genes x Shiskaberry #3

Got some weirdness on one of the 907xShisk crosses. One of the branches showing whorled phyllotaxy.

Two clones with roots! 2 of the 907xNL cuts thrown away because this is just a chick party up here. NO DUDES

Raised the light about 6" and cranked brightness up for 400 at canopy. Little easier to work down there now. My K + kelp supplement is arriving tomorrow so I’ll start feeding with a dose of that before I take cuts.

[funkyfunk]

Yay, they made it! Congrats. With so tiny clones to start with, you’ll be able to make the squattest mothers ever.

[Nitt]

@tamimes

Every 3 months i cut the roots and add som fresh dirt

This is a technique I read about in a “keeping bonsai mothers” article or two. I have a couple rootbound “mother” plants and I think I’ll try with one of them instead of tossing them both.

@FieldEffect That’s great on the clones. Nice work.
I’ve never heard the term “whorled” before. That’s interesting. One thing I just read while quickly looking it up mentions this: “This type of leaf arrangement is rarely seen in plants. Here, two or more leaves arise from a single node. It is usually seen in plants with short internodes.”

Interesting.