Rainy where you are? There are some very mold resistant sativas…
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Not rainy…but hot and humid in July and August…rain and cool weather in the fall. Doing indoor, so wanted something that would fare well in those conditions.
Wanted to start seeds in april/may and flower june/July to Septemberish
Which strains would you guys suggest?
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The 9 Weeker northern Viet example was just an Example aprroximately to fund what i saying. I havent seen a Tonn of Strains to talk about, just enough to call it Pattern. That one i used for this purpose.
However The 13 weeker initial Claim was more general for whole Vietnam, adressing even 13 Weeker Cambodian, and 13 Weeker Dalat (south Vietnam). wich is the Tropics. 13 Weeks…
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50? 100? How many do you want? Those Balochistan plants all look very good. Nice breeding work.
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What kind of effects are you looking for from the smoke?
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Something that’ll get you high af…lol
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There’s a lot of potent snowhigh hybrids that fit the bill… and of course they are geared for indoors as well. But if you were looking for more of a landrace sativa type, there’s lots of potent stuff to be found there as well. Is height a concern? Not sure I listed it, but how about Ace Malawi Killer? My seeds are a few years old now and have been stored at room temperature. I bought the Breeders pack, and so far I’ve only tried the purple Malawi which was very very good. I have the old Malawi killer and the new Malawi killer. Both of which are supposed to set you staring at a blank TV screen for hours on end. The flowering time for the old Killers is 12 to 14 weeks, and I think it’s 12 to 13 for the new killers. New killers are supposed to be a bit more manageable indoors. This is the sativa that got me into buying landraces. I wanted to try it since the minute I saw it. Ace is whittling down the flowering time of the Malawi killer, so before long it will be an indica. The latest generation has 10 week individuals , now at p4 or p5. It would be a great idea to preserve these P1 or P2 Generation seeds that still have that sativa goodness within them, but with a myrcene content up to .6%, it’s one that will paralyze you as well.
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Almost forgot…got that RKS!
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By questioning those Findings as Heirlooms, you in same time thinking over a assumed other Heritage.
Doesent necessarly matter if you give your possible Explonation the Nametag “Heirloom”.
My observated Pattern stays what it is: 13 weeker tropical Regions collected Viet Lines.
It is what it is, a pattern i observed
and no evidence or pattern to proove it a Heirloom (northern heritage) been found yet
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Good job on the RKS man
You mean this last Snowhigh order? I don’t actually know everything he’s putting in there, but this is what I know for sure.
Acapulco Gold Purple Gold Mix (Acapulco Gold x Acapulco Gold Red Stem)
Double Acapulco Gold P2: (Acapulco Gold circa 68’ x Acapulco Gold Red Stem)
Panama Red Dark Blue
Red Congolese
Panama Red 2016 Preservation
Panama Red Sweet Berry
Oaxacan Zipolite 8 x Acapulco Gold Red Stem
Torreon x Michoacán
Guerrero Green x Michoaca
Acapulco Gold Purple Stem BX: (Acapulco Gold circa 68’ x Acapulco Gold Red Stem)
Grand Colombian (5 Panama Red 74 & 5 Panama Red Hair X Colombian Red Hair)
Brazilian Red Gold (Aracaju Red Northern Brazil Landrace x Colombian Gold)
Palladium OG (Platinum OG Kush x True Gangster Kush)
Durban Poison x Eastern Cape South African Bush Sativa x Panama Red Hair
Panama Poison: (Durban Poison x Panama Red BCO Red Stem)
Southern Mexican High Mountain Sativa Chiapas x Michoacán)
Red Thai X Senegalese (Issan Lowland Red Thai x Senegalese)
Golden Dragon (Khmer Gold Cambodian x Chiang Mai Northern Thai male)
Abusive OG x Pablo’s Gold x OG Purple Fire Thai x Hells Angel OG
Nangarhar Afghani Preservation
Nangarhar Chocolate Perfume pheno x Panama Red
He always throws in 5-6 extra packs too. 
How about dees one? 
Sierra Madre (Guerrero Green Circa 78 x Michoacán GPB)
The Guerrero Green was collected in the late 70’s by Peace Corp workers on mission. This heirloom Mexican produces moderately long cola spears of semi dense floral clusters with a bright green color. A Spicy aroma and taste with a happy high that many people grew up on before name brand cannabis strains became the norm. The female was selected from many individuals and bled purple sap as well as having purple petioles and stems.
The Michoacán line produces a good amount of resin and good sized buds. Some have purple traits, black and red depending on the recessive traits that pop up. This is your chance to grow a pure blood Mexican from the late 70’s to early 80’s version which was semi commercial in quality.
Flower time range 10-12 weeks
Stretch 1 to 3x
Resin production: moderate to high
Aroma: Honey Suckle, Mint, menthol, honey, tobacco, spice, cloves
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I can get that many back? Yeah, 100 would be great! PM me if you wanna run them
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Also, saw someone mention Korean strains. If you look on Landrace teams stories they have some Korean but I don’t think they have a lot. I copped an Iranian no one has yet because I saw them mention it once and asked. If you see something they got, just ask in email. They’re probably looking to get reproductions runs going. They asked if I was going to do so with their Mazandaran which leads me to believe they have waaayyyy more than they put up on their site/strainly but just don’t have the capacity to do reproduction runs of everything themselves.
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Looking really nice,
For How many days aprox. Did you had them from seed to harvest?
Thanks
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Which one? The Afropips Malawi pictured above?3 weeks veg, 14-16 weeks flowering.
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That card earlier said 14 -18 weeks for tropical highlands. 13 weeks isnt far off at all. As I said before, there are exceptions to every rule, and very high elevations, like near Dalat, can lessen flowering times
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Tell Guitarzan and he will list them for you as a Freakers strain. I dont have the ability to run those in my wet climate. Wish I could. Id have to do it indoors, and I’m booked for the forseeable future. You wont have trouble finding someone to run those I don’t think.
@Guitarzan, thats some list! Lots of gold in there!
@District_Flora, that Mazandaran looks interesting. Could be a “wet” Indica. ( mold resistant). I would have grabbed that one myself, but I’m hoping for a sativa from that region.
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Just to be clear, 100 is what we’re shooting for, but as we know all too well, anything can happen on a run, and some strains just don’t produce a lot of seeds.
Full membership in the FBSC will be limited to 50 Freaks. Seeds will be equally divided among the Freaks, and the affiliate grower and donor, if applicable, up to a max of 100 seeds.
On a full open pollination run pulling 100 seeds each should be easy money. The limited pollination runs will not produce as many seeds, so on those runs, I’m thinking 50 may be a more reasonable number, but we’ll have to assess that after each LP run. Anything over what goes to the Freaks will go to @Sebring to be distributed via his site.
I’d just like to take a moment, and on behalf of all the Freaks, say a big thank you to @Sebring for agreeing to handle distribution for the FBSC. I look at everything he does here on OG, and I can only come to the conclusion that he has violated the international ban on human cloning. 
But however he does it, we appreciate it.
I just checked, 9 people have signed up in the poll so far. Speaking of that I think we all need to make a choice just so we’ll have an official tally. Even if you’re one of the original Freaks, if you’re gonna grow, please go ahead and do the poll. I haven’t done it yet either, but I’m going to as soon as I finish this.
I can’t see any names until the poll closes, but regardless, we’re in no danger of hitting the cap anytime soon. We got off to a slow start, but I believe it’ll pick up steam as people start seeing the logs.
That’s one of the big reasons the FBSC developed the way it did. We have 180 strains in our vault, and that’s a drop in the bucket compared to what’s out there that needs to be preserved.
There are too many strains that need to be grown out for individual growers to make a dent in. Even with 50 people completing say 75 runs a year you’re still talking years of effort. 50 growers is a lot of growers, and we may never hit that number, but there’s no doubt that we’ll make far quicker work of it as a group, and hopefully have some fun doing it.
I think I can speak for the other Freaks when I say, we appreciate your support @District_Flora, and look forward to your contributions to the effort. I may have told you this, but if you have strains you want to make available for people to grow, send me the strain name, and the source it came from, and I’ll add them to the list. 
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your initial Statement was like two things: that this Card is true, and in same Time revidated trough adding the 3, 4 weeks room for error. So, there is still a aknowledged truthfullness as i percieved it, in same washed out, cause 3, 4 weeks errorroom .
Anyhow, i then went on asking you about the clearness of it.
After i did that you called up exeptions. So i went on clearifying the extent of “exeption”, by saying how actually often it appeared.
So, initially it appeared a bit too different from what ive seen , thats why i asked and you then came up with those 9 weeker Nigerian per example. That is what im talking about, the exact extent of “exeptions”.
So, you didnt necessarly say those Datails in the first place, and later when calling it exeptions i disscussed wich extent you meant with exeptions,(you talking alot about northern influence/me clarifying the possible evidence )
For me 13 Weeks is in its attractivity a reasonable difference to 14 Weeks for northern People. . One week more can make the difference between a ripe fruit and a compromised Fruit.
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I didn’t see your post about the 13 weeks yesterday. Not till this morning. I think I was typing when you wrote those couple posts, and my post went in after you typed those so I missed them.
I’m not sure what you’re asking or telling me.
Are you asking how often the exceptions appear? I don’t know the answer to that but it’s not very often. If I had to take a quick guess maybe 5% of the time.
On that tag it lists flowering times for tropical Highland landraces at 14 to 18 weeks… and a post or two after that one I wrote that breeders could knock a couple weeks off of that flowering time. The 13-weekers you are talking about fall squarely within that time line…
I still think that these would fall under the category of heirloom though. Breeders can control a small population and keep the flowering times down( heirloom) but with large populations of landrace plants, there is too much pollen floating around, too many bees and other pollinators visiting plants to keep Mother Nature from doing her thing. I may want to keep a 10-week variety in the tropics growing Outdoors, but each year Mother Nature will force me to pick a couple days later if I want a finished plant. They just go longer no matter what you want. I’d be interested to see a 13-week Vietnamese landrace FROM southern Vietnam. The Vietnamese were not known as pot farmers. It would take a lot of work and knowledge to knock down a tropical sativas flowering time to the point that it was at 13 weeks if it was much different than that to start with. Indian Farmers have been able to do it with Sheelawati, but they are some of the best Growers on Earth . In my mind a much more likely scenario, is that shorter flowering plants were brought to these regions, not made there. They are all very close to the Mekong River which is a Highway in Southeast Asia. Trade goes up and down that River from Near The Source all the way to the mouth. By the time you get near the Chinese border, you are at latitudes that are very similar to the Himalayas, where plants flower from 12 to 14 weeks.
You have to look at what we know. We know that Vietnam borders China. We know the Chinese were in Vietnam in the 1970s. We know Vietnamese were in China in the 1970s. We know that no American was able to get Northern Vietnamese genetics in the 70s. Not without risking getting shot or worse. We know the flowering times in tropical regions everywhere else on Earth. We know these Vietnamese flowering times are different in most instances, and when they are similar in other regions we know there was an influx of new genetic material during that time… We know the Vietnamese were not pot farmers. If you take all that information together, it looks like hybridization occurred.
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Yes. Hybrid vigor will often knock a week off flowering times according to what I read. Maybe 2.
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