High prices combined with low morals immediately make me question the authenticity of what they are pushing.
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I don’t really anymore. They wouldn’t even know what they had if someone didn’t tell them. Who knows if half the stuff they got was from other people trying to rip them off. I just find it funny that he conveniently has a bunch of stuff that no one else does. It’s not like they somehow have a secret network of growers that others don’t have access to. They get most if not all their seeds through the mail from other people and a lot of them under shady/false pretenses. I’m on a private forum where they used to be a member and they got a bunch of the stuff they now sell from people there who didn’t know they were going to be sold (and copied the exact description someone else wrote for their own site with no credit). Not to mention had no idea what pine tar kush was only a few years ago. I wouldn’t trust someone with that kind of limited knowledge on heirlooms to know what they are doing/buying/selling at all. It’s not that hard to tell people exactly what they want to hear.
There was some arguing going on about that balochistan awhile back when it was being released as well because people from indian landrace exchange etc were saying the farmer hadn’t even harvested the seeds that he already had for sale. Just all around shady IMO.
Landrace/heirlooms are becoming insanely popular over the past few years and is becoming big business. The snakes are all coming out to take your hard earned money and take advantage of the excitement/passion many of us have. I remember when they were all 20-30 max per pack and had little to no interest. Now they’re all overpriced and crazy interest. Supply and demand I guess.
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I think thelandraceteam spend their days looking over Instagram. I found the guy they got their Malawi from. I found the guy that got Uganda from. I found the guy they got the Congo from. Many others as well. They buy in bulk and then resell at a higher price. When I buy from these other guys it’s usually a dollar or two a seed. Landrace team is $10. I don’t agree with their business practices, but I do believe they have legitimate stock. Lesotho and Transkei are from Rastafarout. Congo from beanofromcongo. Malawi and Uganda from an African farmer i know. I asked all these guys if the landrace team bought their stuff and they said yes. There are others I can’t think of offhand. So I would say their stuff is legitimate. It’s pretty obvious thelandraceteam is a member of various sites like overgrow. Probably icmag and others. I believe some of their stuff like the Durban was given to them with the intention that the landrace team would spread them. Other times they reproduce seeds unethically from other companies that are selling them, such as the real seed company or the underground seed Collective. When a new landrace pops up on real Seed Company site, you can take the flowering time, and a month or two after a seed run would be completed the landrace team is magically selling them too. So it’s pretty obvious they are reproductions. Other times they go to the same Source another company got theirs from, like I’m doing to the landrace team, look for their source and skip the middleman. Of course I’m not selling them though. So I will agree with anything negative about them except the authenticity of their seeds.
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they have almost 60 strains for sale I would have a hard time believing all of it is legitimate just because some of it is. I know where they got their Aunt of Farouk and Pine Tar Kush from as well so I know those are also legitimate but that doesn’t mean I believe for a second that all their stuff is legit or that I’d continue to support them knowing how they operate.
I’m just shady of landrace sellers in general. Especially companies that haven’t been established for awhile/ sell off strainly/instagram. I’m not saying all Strainly or IG sellers are ripoff artists (I’ve followed rastafarout for years and always enjoy the pics) but with those platforms it’s a lot easier to take advantage of buyers. I see it all the time.
I remember when Kagyu from Coastal Seeds was posting about how great AOF was awhile back as well with no credit to who actually made it available until I publicly mentioned that he should be giving credit. I don’t like the way a lot of these sellers are trying to take all the credit and money for other people’s work without even so much as a name mention let alone thanks.
I have a few things from landrace team like Colombian Black (when packs were 30 bucks)but I won’t continue to support them because they’re shady and overpriced.
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Only one way to know for sure if they are legitimate or not. I’ve got lots of seeds if anyone wants to grow some of them. They are all up for adoption except for Congo black and Durban. I’ll be growing those😁
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I’ve collected a hundred different landrace varieties over the last year. It’s not hard to do if you’re addicted to buying them. They probably don’t know themselves if everything they got is real. Like me, they are often times taking someone else’s word for it. Seems like it would be pretty poor business practice to sell non authentic stock. They’re risking their reputation if that’s what they are doing.
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I hear you there. Agreed. They sold seeds for $30? Wish they still did! Problem is, they are oftentimes the only source for rare landraces. No one else has any Korean, philippines,Iranian,much of their African stock,etc. The minute I find someone else selling these, Ill buy from them. Don’t like their business practices? Reproduce something of theirs that I have, pass them out to everyone you can, and give them a taste of their own medicine. So far everything I have checked on seems legitimate and it looks like the couple you checked on look legitimate as well. Which of their stock are you suspect of?
Hopegully at some point their Spin Ghar gets grown by Solowolf, who I gave the seeds to. They look legit. Probably a repro of RSC Tora Bora seeds. So far that’s the only thing of theirs that I have out.
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Don’t forget, the indigenous farmers are the ones who truly did the work
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A few years ago they only offered a few strains and they were cheap. I didn’t look into any of their strains’ authenticity I was just mentioning the AOF because I saw it first hand. I’m pretty much suspicious of most of their gear though because I’ve seen their posts on forums and how they get seeds. You don’t find it odd that they somehow have a lot of gear that no one else has/before it’s even released? I wouldn’t trust someone who didn’t know what was what a few years ago to have any idea what they have or don’t have. Being the only source for something is often a red flag. Not always but pretty often in my experience.
I don’t like their business practices or trust what they have so I wouldn’t support them. Giving them money to just to reproduce their seeds that are not guaranteed to what they are advertised is just a waste of money and time IMO and it’s still supporting shady people who don’t deserve any money.
And about the indigenous farmers, the aunt of farouk was grown and selected by someone for almost 40 years before it was eventually released so I think they deserve credit and pretty much no one who’s used it in breeding has given credit to lala for even making it available to the public which I think is wrong. I’ve seen coastal,tlt and mass medical all post about it not one mentioned where they got it from (where it’s still for sale) If there was any kind of record of anyone else who worked it in the past they would also deserve credit but there isn’t.
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I’m sure there’s more than just the Aof where some acknowledgment and credit is due, your right… Their Pakistan 1975 looks like it was worked by somebody. Pretty sure they have taken some stuff from the underground seed Collective. The pine tar Kush too…kalimpong… I suppose I just mean Raw landrace stock. But no, I don’t find it odd that they have 60 strains after just a couple years. If we were to take The Freaker’s Collective, and sell the seeds we make, I think we would be doing something similar to the landrace team( we wont though). I think they look for Growers that are interested in reproducing something, and then they take the bulk of the seeds and sell them, whereas we are going to give them away. You’re right though, they probably don’t know asses from elbows when it comes to landrace varieties, so I’m hoping that their Sources knew the difference. But absolutely, buying their seeds you’re taking a chance. You’re best off trying to find the source they got it from. Hell, for all I know they’ll be getting something from us at some point by being sneaky here on overgrow. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least. But growing their seeds is the best way to see what they’re selling. I won’t be able to do that before next fall I don’t think.
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Holy crap that would be colossally awesome I’ll chip in for that if need be
Peace and stayvaafe
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No. I think they are sneaky, they befriend people on grow sites, and they then reproduce the seeds and sell them, probably in some cases against the will of the person who gave them seed. I’ve befriended several Indian growers recently. If I was a dick, I could repro and sell their stuff.(20 plus landraces just with those 3 contacts) With the online world now it’s very easy to befriend people from other countries. Many of these people could never afford a western-style strain. If they are offering cookies in exchange for the local landrace, and paying shipping, I’m sure people would be happy to oblige . I get what your saying about shady practices though. They are greedy fuckers for sure, and dont care about the plant imo, just money. But, i hope for my sake they aren’t frauds, because Ive spent a fair amount of money on their gear. Fingers crossed!
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I got the RKS. Anyone interested in chipping in, it would be much appreciated. I don’t generally spend $200 on seeds, but this one is part of American pot history, and i felt the price was justified for that reason. I thought it would be easy to find a volunteer to grow the seeds out and make enough for everyone that wants to try it.
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Could always chip 20-25 if needed for some beans in the future 
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I’d be down for chipping in.
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I would pitch into the cause. Finding someone to reproduce seeds for us shouldn’t be too difficult and the allure of us all being able to search through so many greatly increases our chances.
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I was hoping to get five people, but the more the merrier for sure. @dequilo said he’s in. @Instg8ter, I had talked to you about going in as well, but I really wanted to keep all the seeds together for the first run… are you still interested in going in? @YoBigdaddy…you still in? That would make seven of us so far. Less than $30 a piece.
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RKS?!
I’m in!! 
Cheers
G
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Whoa, whoa, whoa…what is this about RKS? Can I weasel in on that deal?
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