Fuel's grow log

[Fuel]

For this late update, i’m entering in “urgency mode” and the tents become both hospitals and slaughter house ^^ During the last weeks, i’ve worked like crazy in the house and in bonus of a lack of cares, i’ve generated a big worry indirectly. Shit happend.

It start soft with a clogged prefilter, with the pic you can’t feel how hard it have becomed ^^ Like paperbox.

The negative pressure sucked plaster dirt all the lenght of all zips.

And the worse for the end, the tank with around one half centimeter of plaster on bottom ^^

Somes plants are so fcked than i’m switching to perpetual mode before the planned date, it’s when i love my unselected specimens. They fill the gap.

It’s pretty intensive and full time since Sunday, washing, diagnose, trying to fix if possible …

The veg specimens are entirely cloned now, all the selection + somes than i want to watch before to classify them.

I’m trying a specific care on a big sweet tooth to see if it change something, mix of “tap water rinse”, then 2AB, then foliar of Magic Green at 1. It’s a female i want to train a bit to make a “weed mom”.

The process don’t change itself, i’'ve cloned the apex and will judge their cloning performance and also the restart of the secondaries on the source specimens.

With the JH#2 it’s an hardcore test, this line take twos weeks to clone since a fews generations. I’m supposed to have increased this stat in the previous generation, to be continued …

On the flo side, a sort out of specimens was needed to don’t continue to waste time on somes.

Somes are “rinsed” with tap water to be harvested, because the chance to win some additionnal grammers are thin. Fortunately, it’s mainly JH#5 based bloods and pures. Allready pretty strong at this stage, blunts are not specially tasty but violent for sure ^^

Somes others are juste “freezed” and can restart their work (perhaps), i rinse their coco with 2AB + 0.3 Root Excel.

Twos specimens don’t give a fck and flower like nothing happend lol

SGR4 x ST#3, but no surprise on the unbreakable mother qualities. Scents are fun, fruity musky. I will start to prepare her to be harvested for mid november max.

SGR6 x ST#3, totally dominated by the ST3 blood.

A shame to harvest these JH bloods so early but somes nice phenotypes from the veg will take the turn soon by clones. No pity.

This is barely the new configuration, it will evolve more like a perpertual now. Somes will disapear, others will appear on the flow, the time to streamline a bit this big mess in something decent lol ^^

You can see twos rejected ST#3 specimens in diagonal than are dominating the sun, a bit proud of this line ^^

I have a Grapestomper x Bubba Jam than fight well also :

We will see what will happend with an intensive week of care, i cross my fingers to can revert back the consequences.

But each disadvantage have its advantages ^^ Smoke a fatty for me ! I need Jah vibes this week lol

[oleskool830]

Holy shit my friend @Fuel! This post blew my mind! Not the first time one of your posts has blown my mind and offered a fit of inspiration. Your knowledge is boundless and on point. We are fortunate to have you in our Fam. And the price is right for the consultant services that you generously provide to us. Much Respect!

[Fuel]

Thx oleskool for your kind words ;o)

This week was more about intensive cares, transplanting and also “to close” the round on the minimal amount of specimens possible, to launch the next one.

In veg all specimens are cloned except one couple (male/female) of GSxBJ, all by apex. Can’t wait the roots, to launch some selected females in flo.

I forgot to show i do, but pretty classic and passive with coco pellets.

Things are moving a bit in flo, the unselected specimens take the turn until the selected take place.

The twos rejected sweet tooth in rear are rushing

The JH#5 specimens are fcked imho, i will not restart their metabolism i think.

I will let them fight a bit until i’ve better to replace with.

I can’t miss to show the very last production of Fuel’s industries, on top of the technology and industrial refinement : the active “cold flue” dryer ^^

The duct come from a little RVK of 350M3/h than is injecting fresh air in the flo tent. It just dry the weed faster without so much compromise during the winter.

[Fuel]

With the last harvest, i get my artificial and lovely “breeding bubble” … now than everything is smoked (around a dry pound), i remember than it exist a world aside ^^ The end of this round was passionnating, let’s see the next episode lol

The crop is in cruiser speed now after some worries, and will be filled only with selected phenotypes. Can’t wait, after have smoked everything rejected i think than this round will be promising. The US blend lack a bit of horsepower as usual but the stone is delicious and not creepy, everything else is at top on IBLs; i’m lucky as fck for one time.

But i get gnats again damned, more a consequence of lack of care. And a bad lot of coco coir also, no choice i got 140 liters of trichodermas enriched. Happy to have used it all, this shit attract the gnats like flies. Well they are flies in a way. 140 liters of buffered no-trichodermas are on the go, this will be the starting block of the next round.

Behind the things : passive cloning, phase 2

So there is the clones, they are mainly apex. The coco pellet are usually “hydrated” by 0.25ml/L of Roots Excell solution but this time it’s 0.25ml/L of Startbooster. There is the simple process i’m using.

First thing i do with all pots, is to check the drain holes and to empty/refine them. With all pots in fact. When they are brand new, it’s frequent to get this.

I put a coco coir layer on bottom, put the clone inside.

Then i fill the remaining volume with a cheap soil of supermarket, neutralized by micro waves.

Then i cover with what i have under the hands at the moment lol

When i see that, i let them work without the dome the time to “densify” the root mass enough to be transplanted.

Then i let them work for different lenght of time. I’m used to “force” the clones a bit to produce my weed when i can, sometimes during one entire month. This time i will not to gain some time, i have comparisons to do with final choices to set for further generations. And in the hybrid i want to make, it’s a pivot point. It will give the spirit of the whole cross and its inherent main “traits”.

When they reach this state, they are ready to be transplanted.
Too early and the clone will take ages to colonize the coir, without consolidating the “aerial structure” in same time. And solid and generous secondaries is all i need for now ^^

You allready known what happend next in details ^^

Many others things to share, i will write it in taking the time. Training, and maybe a new technic to germinate bitchy seeds ^^ I’m still fighting with my old seeds of Ghanna x Zamal, i dig alternatives to relaunch this incredible line for a later hybrid.

I’ve a couple of smoke reports to share also because they represent the long term dynamic in what i’m doing and permit to enter in depth in the breeding consideration, face to the cone. It’s an important aspect than is never shared online, it’s weird.

See you later for a “in depth” decisionnal explanation on … 3 years i think. Yeah the last round of the lines i’m talking about was in 2006.

Smoke the best !

[oleskool830]

Boom! There it is! Excellent post my brother @Fuel. Thank you for that. You know where it’s going!

[Fuel]

Hey there !

Not so much things to show these last times, it’s a transitionnal time.

I’m just finishing a fight against hungry gnats. I think than i’ve found the ultimate napalm for them, i will document that later for the recipe.

And the very last female specimens of the last round, the finalists, are on the go in the flo side since around three days. They are all backup by their apex in veg, with some extras to prepare in advance the first seed batches.

The apex clone will not be motherized, they will be directly be used to make seeds or weed (if rejected at final stage for a better one).

On the background, the barely definitive male’s set. They are waiting their turn to make the show in the pollen tent.

On right side, the result of an experiment about an homemade seed sprouter. Seeds are Perun F2, freebies from seedheaven. They was tagged 50% germination but all popped, i’ve just killed somes than was totally lacking of vigor.

On the flo side, nearly all selected females are there. They are the original specimens. ST#3, JH#2 and the kushy GSBJ. The EBB & Flow table is out the time to totally stabilize the situation with gnats but not only, this last layer of selection is important for the next move so i will use three differents soups for them with handwatering. You can see clearly twos specimens than are not gnats resistants ^^

I will fill the gap with the Perun F2 and with all clones i can made of JH and ST3 motherized females. And that’s the real subject of this update in fact. To show how i’m preparing and training clone’s producers to fill my blunts, when no more shape’s study is necessary.

Let’s show the freak for now

There is the principle, making a spring around the trunk. It permit to fully wrap it without hurting the development with a “tourniquet” effect. But not only, it’s also a mechanical help to work allready formed and mature specimens.

In starting by the base of the plant, you gently bend the whole trunk with its spring. Progressivly each day, to reach at the end a more insane angle like that :

The spring will act as an exoskeleton and insure to don’t broke the trunk or the sceondaries.

On the pic i’m preparing my weed-stash-clones-producers (motherplants lol) to make a circle around the pot. I will give news sometimes until the second step, when i remove the spring. The second part is funky also.

Each time than you bend under a certain angle, your secondaries will follow the light within 2 days. If it take more long, something is wrong and the plant don’t recover like it’s supposed to be. For clones producer, i try to let the maximum secondaries possible, even tiny and/or atrophied. At each clones harvest, these weak secondaries will boost.

I do that only when i form them and when i’m in hurry to stimulate new growths for clones. I just choose the twos secondaries than are the more distant from the base of the trunk, then i remove the shoot in taking care to don’t harm the internode under.

Then after that a little cure of root booster and when the plant restart to grow, the maximal dose of base than can handle the plant. For sativa-ish strain, i lower the base and add fulvic + extra K. Because i will scarify them later more than indica-ish strain.

Thats all for today, next update it will be more a documented flashback about breeding, smoke report and rejections. Risky business, it’s hard to present in a rationnal way something so subjective. To be continued !

Have a nice cone !

[Dee.S73]

Great detail as always !

DS

[oleskool830]

Great stuff brother @Fuel. Thank yo for that. It’s definitely going into oleskool’s big Red Book of Aquired Knowledge.

[Fuel]

About the Sweet Tooth #3

I’ve finally resolved the ST#3 enigma, forced to return to F6 with retro-selection. One year in the ass with my project ^^
But it’s always hard to share how much you have to work for a single step, i’m working on my new hybrid and i maintain the IBLs at a time.

And for this one, my god, headache. I’ve finally found the divine solution, writed black on white one year ago … by myself. How silly and shamefull it is right ? There

I’ve now all P1 necessary to assemble the 3way, soon 4 years of hell to obtain that.

Rejected F6 specimens (but all in the right final range) :

At this point it’s very hard to share the feeling on site, the nuancies are impossible to share. So i will not do it.

This is the fucking hell SPG phenotype of this new segregation. I’ve her sister in veg side, much more stretchy/woody/biatch/resistant to nothing/ long to clone. But a lot more tasty, and keeping the violence of high of the (mendelian) hybrids forms. I’m pretty happy now than i’ve the new map. Spiders love her as fuck.

But the more complicated was to select the male to couple with the jack herer, it was all about extrapolation and “millimeters nuancies” etc … i known the SPG only as a female cut and i’ve never saw any project of stabilization on it since over twos decades.

This is the new “bubblegum” segregation, very nice weed and so on, but totally outside the original ST#3 shape and weed. It’s a complete new one, except for the specific high injected in F3 which stay ultra-dominant in all specimens.

And this is the mendelian hybrid which have put my breeding plan in hell the whole 2018. Now i known how to drive this new car, in taking in count the dominant BB skeleton who want to come back in front of the scene.

Conclusion : i will engage a BX program (again) near identical to the original strategy. Sometimes, breeding is an infinite loop. The “SPG female” will be used as reference, and the new segregation as the reccurent donor to be diluted.

Not specially happy, i’ve to keep working and alive a very weak phenotype during one more year. At least to the BX3 damned. But yeah, it value the ride and from this point this line have finally my own touch. Incredible initial work and genetic resistance by the way, i’ve never know a single hybrid so handly on high pressure selections.

I’m preparing something to let people see what can give a SOG in term of yield, but also to share some strategic tricks and errors to avoid. With “ultra easy” mode under adversity (still infected by gnats and spider ^^) in mind.

60 clones to produce for this and my motherplants are not much gigantic atm. And in term of breeding it’s totally useless for the moment, i’ve not yet the first F1 to test. I will fill the bottles with twos jack herer specimens, to make the advantage of the method much more obvious for those which have hard time to believe SOG ratios / sqm.

I will make a specialized post for it, but in one shot. No grow log with updates etc…
I’ve the hybrid to make and the last steps are always very demanding, i don’t specially want to share the last steps also to be 200% frank. You will understand why in seeing the first F1 at the end of 2020.

see ya around

[Hempire420]

I have seen some amazing results from 2l pop bottle sogs in the past.
Looking forward to see what you can pull with that.

Are you going to use HPS or LED ?

[Fuel]

This SOG will be drived under neons, 560 real watts (4250W theorical) / 44 (tent). The GHE table is one square meter. I’m expecting a solid half kilogrammer as minimum, a bit over one if i’ve not too much losted the hand lol

It will be challenging, i generally fill entirely the tent without any table to optimize the yield. But i’m too old now for that.

I will take a shot later to show the correct choice for a 4*4 tent, but more intensive in term of hand watering.

[Fuel]

Here we go, before i enter again in the submarine ^^

A 4x4 handle more than i was expecting, over 100 specimens. Actually 1111 (121), maximum 1212 (144).
It’s better to stay at 100 specimens / 4*4 imho to keep a decent space between the tent’s walls and the plants. For datas it’s pretty cool also, natural percentage.

If you’re young and full of energy, experienced or not, this is the way to do it for your very first time. I’m very serious. Doing it in a GHE table is wasting yield as hell, let it for washed old growers with back destroyed.

Why it’s intensive ? Because the twos liters of medium is pretty fast to dry, specially in plain flowering time. Depend on the strain used but it can be as quick than only 24 hours. Add to it than at least one time per week, you should clean the space and the plants. Impossible to do it without “to empty” the tent totally, too dense. But the promise of the easy big harvest is too sexy to don’t be experienced at least one time in your life of grower if you’re enough young and full of motivation. With the GHE table, i will do my best to expose the concept and its potential. With grammers, ratios etc … it’s time to debunk all the funk around the SOG. Never-ending loop lol

Now, if you can’t wait to experience it, let’s share a trick to best manage the hand watering without being a slave or to transform the tent in a lake.

Behind the bottle, just place another one cutted to be able to handle 500ml of solution/water/wathever you give. The half liter is important.

That’s the “working bottle”, where the root mass will make its magic. Try to cut at 2liters (not more, important, but not less like the picture).Drill holes in corners, i personnally cut the corner with a cutter to have holes of around 1 centimeter.

Then, cut a second bottle to be able to handle an half liter of water. Place the “working bottle” on it. Each time you hand water, the drain will go down to the second bottle and the roots will colonize it. It will learn you how to water well your cannabis also … more than 500ml drain on 2L : over watered, reduce the stock on bottom to let a little space of air between the bottle #1 and the water of the bottle #2. Never let sit the plant on water.

Don’t over-do it then, until three weeks of flowering time it’s pretty slow to dry the “carrots of medium”. After that … well it’s the daily hell lol

Algea : you will not avoid it in this configuration. But you can reduce drastically it in increasing the opacity of the bottle or directly, using a bottle which don’t let the light enter. Remember than algea are very hungry for O², and O² is something like a “yield activator” for your plants.

It was the little teasing for the more brave of you, i’ve to wait a couple of months before starting the table …
all the best for your crop !

[Fuel]

I’ve realized afterward than my explanations on the bottles was shitty as fck … i’ve take pics. Better than 1000 words.

STEP 1 : Cut the bottle on top, it’s important for later to keep the maximum height you can. But let enough space for maintenance (cleaning) and access (transplant).

STEP 2 : Cut the bottom of the bottle to make drain. This kind of “bottom” is perfect for drains, the center is more “up” and let flow the water on sides.

STEP 3 : Cut another bottle to make the “tank” of the individual system. Fill the bottle with an half liter of water, do a mark of the level with a pen and cut on the mark.

Warning : i was forced to cut very short because the bottle are not compliant with this system. Too fancy “mold” with ergonomics. Take one straight for “no ebb&flow” system, less headache. If you have no choice, warm the “tank” gently with fire then push the main bottle on it.

STEP 4 : Place the main bottle on the “tank”, plant your seeds or clones

Note : this is the real height of the system, around 40 centimeter height all included. Again, these datas are important and borned from a lot of practice on gigantic selections. Remember these golden datas :

• main bottle of 2 liters
• tank of an half liter
• maximum height of an half meter, all included
• minimum height of the main bottle : 30 centimeters
• a common tank is possible, but you don’t win so much in return if you don’t make a bubbler below. Individuals systems are far better and safer, not only for large selections but for pure yield also.

How it look with the right heights :

Update : I will finally use the SOG table with rejected JH females on a male extraction, from seeds then. I just can’t make a “blank” session with clones in my breeding plan, so i will adapt the tutorial for the context. The good thing is than it will be a dual documentation : dense SOG + SOG from seeds.

Update 2 : how it look like

[Roms]

Hey Happy Spring Bro

I grab my hammock and contemplate, chapeau!