That x18 just looks like a small yielding plant I wouldn’t say it looks like an og let alone looking specifically like ghost lol
Maple leaf indica, kush 4, etc all were things that predated the forums no?
Wouldn’t those be better things to bring up then simply when your able to like research back to on ic
Indoors it looks like a proper og @Heritagefarms
I just think your kinda going crazy with these this looks like that or that looks like this precise thing
Like you said your og plant looked just like this one in the suge thread that leetdood posted his homies pic of
your saying such like sure things based on remote aesthetic similarities
I don’t see the similarity between the above pic and your outdoor photo
Fwiw I do really like the bottom pic there of the og you have
I was on a farm in Humboldt that did a Lot of business selling clones.
Unfortunately, there was no real oversight of what the hired hands were doing, so things got mislabeled and assumed to be this or that. So a lot of cuts from Sherbinsky got mislabeled and sold as this or that and sold to other farms under assumed names.
A d that’s something Ive seen quite a bit of iver the years.
Of course, original breeders know their work, hence the importance of cuts being verified, no matter how sure the middleman is that its this or that. Kind if like how ChemdogGlass and PBud realized they had the same thing, just named differently
There’s so many ways a clone can become mislabeled thru out the years
And like I was saying especially with OG’s that already can be at times hard to tell apart from each other as is
You put 10 years behind you then get your old OG cut back, unless there was tell tale unique traits your not gonna know
Not all OG’s are so indecipherable but quite a few are
Especially when considering diff rooms, feeds etc
Noticing the trichs on the petioles, it reminds me of how selfed genetics get more trichy than the mother.
When I got into the game, everyone shat on bagseeds and S2’s, but my experience is greater trich coverage and usually stronger smells.
Makes me wonder if that’s how the original got lost(culled). Just an idea
Yeah, its really tough because the line is sooo sensitive to environment and feeding that the same cut can look very different very easily.
When I say looks like I’m not being precise I’m just pointing out similarities , some do look almost indistinguishable while others are drastically different in appearance, obviously nothing can be confirmed from a photo but a lot can be compared.
I also dident say the x18 looked exactly or specifically like anything just that it looked similar to some og and chem type plants.
Maple leaf and kush 4 have nothing to do with me wanting to share a old pic I came across of x18, Ortega’s work along with nevils and many others from that era have been discussed in depth on here in regards to several different matters including the kush lines so at some point it gets redundant repeating things most all of us are well aware of.
I’ve stated multiple times that nevils Hindu skunk the one that is half of the plant people now call og kush was not a pure Hindu, to know this one would also have to know what kush 4 is as its part of the equation and was explained by nevil when he divulged the truth about the Hindu skunk beans he put out. It’s kinda funny because people used to tell me way back when that the kush was not a pure kush but rather half Hindu and something else. These same people were hunting threw Hindu Kush beans non stop and turns out they were beating on the wrong bush literally and figuratively
I’m not under the impression that the original was lost but I guess some are. I’ve also not had the experience with s1 beans you have not saying it isent true in some cases. I have not grown a lot of s1 beans out though due to lack of need or interest. The ones I did grow out were s1s of bubba kush and non of those out of about 40-50 were anything compared to the mother.
I’m curious as to what about a s1 would equal more terps or crystals ?
I’m also not a fan of feminized seed in general and have had every argument in its favor thrown my way , won’t make them won’t grow them but understand they are preferred by some.
People were scared of bag seed back in the day because of the chance it had herm genetics and was not the result of a actual selfed plant but rather a missed herm plant in a large outdoor grow. Herm plants were much more common in the older landrace based genetics while light, heat or chemicals induced selfed seeds are more common now. Plenty of amazing plants have been grown from bagseed but it’s always a gamble , some aren’t willing to take the risk some are. I kept every green bud seed I could get my hands on when I was younger and even found some decent plants when they were grown out bred two of them into a preservation stash I still have beens from. Now a days though there is just to many good options out there for me to mess with mystery beans.
pssst. 
She’s still circulating
Dude there was never a doubt thag a cut called ghost is circulating
Unless you’ve had that cut for 16-20 years or whatever and never lost it or had to get it back you can’t say that with any type of surety
Your relying on what you were told when you received it
Which bring my point thag the cut circulating now is thought by a friend very much in the know who ran it himself and knows all involved to not be it
I likely had the same cut of ghost as you do and I liked it a lot
It’s very dank not very easy to grow tho
but I don’t really want to keep harping on this
It isn’t a hill I’d chose to die on
I’ve said my piece haha
I won’t be replying to anymore posts about the current ghost being real or fake.
anything else about it or the current cut or things it likes or whatever sure
Lmfao.
Whatever helps you sleep at night
Nah, I totally understand. It’s hard to admit you’re wrong. It’s much easier to stick your fingers in your ears and walk away.
You didn’t even ask what lead me to believe that the cut in question is the cut in question. Your immediate response was “don’t tell me any more, I don’t want to hear it.”
To be honest I don’t care
Are you ghost1? anything short of that and I still won’t
Especially with that attitude
I sleep fine
Lmfao. Ghost wasn’t even the dude who germinated the seed, he bought a cut and renamed it to pretend he put in the work.
You’re making yourself look bad, brother.
So as I thought, your not ghost1
Your just trying to argue because your laid up in bed sick
your obviously not orgnkid, your not ghost1
you assume too much about me to think I give a single fuck about looking bad
Don’t drag me back into a fight I give zero fucks about
Your cornering me into saying something mean lol
I hope you feel better, elderberry works wonders
N-acetyl-cysteine is your friend as well
This is what you’re upset about — not the content of my message but the countenance and demeanor with which I told you that you’re wrong. And I’m not trying to argue at all, your response was to dismiss the conversation. Your first comment to me was “I’m done here.”
This is a MAJOR problem with society nowadays. Facts don’t change based on how you feel.
And thank for the tip, honestly, but whatever I’ve got right now is really not as bad as whooping cough. Pertussis is a literal nightmare.
your not wrong here but also
I just don’t care enough about the ghost cut to merit this much trouble
Nor is it my mission to like, change minds here
This wasn’t ever even my personal stance
It was a friends who’s opinion I trust
I was simply bringing something to the conversation but people get pissy when something they love is put in question even tho I’ve repeatedly said what’s passed as ghost/is ghost is dank
It’s a good OG cut, is it my favorite, no…
also when being told I’m wrong, bringing new information to the table instead of a blanket statement I feel is good quorum
I’m Sure I don’t always follow my own advice there
I gotta go do stuffs tho, please folks unless it’s something positive or a productive question please don’t tag me I don’t have a dog in this fight I do not care
Yo, real talk, go back and look at my first comment to you – I genuinely thought I was posting something productive. You are the one who determined, without any reason, that I was just trolling you.
I ain’t selling clones, so I have literally nothing to gain from convincing anyone of anything.
No harm no foul, dude.
I can put an end to this…
Worcestershire is correct…
I know Ghost (Jim) very well.
No longer friends, but that’s his issue…
Ghost bought a cut off Oregon Kid direct for $1000
and did begin selling cuts calling it Ghost OG and got his name out there by doing none of the work… made more then a few enemies.
I got my 10 seeds via Wesos from Oregon Kid in a cut… Wesos to Kman to barefrog to me… unsure who got it into seed form really…
I passed cuts to a guy in Kentucky…
I also hit my Oger with a Starfighter x Vietnamese Black f2 making my Black Oger…
Bigsur51 worked a bunch of Oger crosses but said it’s a different Oger and might be spelled Ogre…
Oger is the seed line that started with orgnkid from selfing the og kush plant.
Ogre is a particular version of sensi star that gets huge instead of staying small and compact.
Orgnkid definitely had the cut before ghost1 did.
@Carty there is person in Washington claiming to be ghost and he is not, ghost is in Michigan and must be in his 50,s or 60s by now. That dude in Washington used to grow bubblegum and call it og and had several other things all mixed up.
I’ve got some uel x oger seed but I’ve got no clue what uel is ?
